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L.S. Dennis
07-24-2003, 11:36 PM
If someone were to ask me who I thought the 2 best 9-ball players in terms of consistency over the years in modern times my answer would have to be 1) The mighty Earl, regardless of what controversy he's involved in he's been there year after year and 2) Buddy Hall. Budddy like Earl has been there for years and to this day still is a force to be reckoned with. I've been told that during the 70's Buddy was practically unbeatable when it came to nine ball.
Anyway those would be my two picks, how about yours?

Ralph S.
07-25-2003, 12:03 AM
Beyond a shadow of a doubt, Earl and Efren. It is very hard to not put Buddy in this group. A very good arguement or case could be made for numerous players. I think it just boils down to personal preference on ones picks.

Hopster
07-25-2003, 12:54 AM
I would say Efren and Earl also, both been there for years.
I know he isnt now but lots of people say Billy Incardonna was a really great nine ball player in the 70,s and 80,s. What happened to his game ? How come he doesnt compete anymore ?

rackmup
07-25-2003, 03:18 AM
Kato & Rackmup.

Okay...maybe not.

Kato & Efren.

Regards,

Ken (President of the Kato Benoit Fan Club-USA)

Fred Agnir
07-25-2003, 07:14 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote L.S. Dennis:</font><hr> Anyway those would be my two picks, how about yours? <hr /></blockquote> Two picks? Ok, here's TWO:

Efren
Sigel
Bustamante
Archer
Varner
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Fred &lt;~~~ can't think of a third one

L.S. Dennis
07-25-2003, 07:21 AM
No question Efren would be my pick for the greatest "all around player in modern times" (maybe of all times!) but I would not put him in the catagory of a nine ball specialist.
This is the point that I'm trying to get at.

Kato
07-25-2003, 07:53 AM
Look Ken, if you're looking for a date with the "redhead" next time you come back you're on the right track.

I am however not quite in Efren's class. Sometimes I amaze myself with those 4 rail, 2 carom shots that I obviously plan.

Kato

Eric.
07-25-2003, 07:57 AM
Hi L.S.D.,

I think you hafta narrow it down a little. Maybe the best 9 ballers from a certain period of time? It's just too long of a list of "who is best". In the 60's, Wimpy and Louie Roberts might be 2 candidates. The 70's had Buddy and Mike Sigel that could be considered. The 80's might belong to Earl and Efren. The 90's could be Archer and Bustamante. The 00's(o.k. 2000's) may belong to Ralf Souquet and Ching-Shun Yang, or maybe a half dozen others.


Eric &gt;not on the list

bolo
07-25-2003, 08:40 AM
Efren, Bustamante, brought the game to a higher level. I have seen them both gamble quite a few times, their wide open game can't be believed, better then anybody. If you have only seen them play in tournaments, you have not seen anything. Sit through a 10 or 15 hour session and their play will give you goose bumps.

bolo
07-25-2003, 08:43 AM
He woke up one day and could not beat anybody. So much for funky fundamentals, they catch up with you.

Fran Crimi
07-25-2003, 10:03 AM
That's a tough one to narrow down to two players. For longevity, I'd have to say Earl and Efren. IMO, Efren's amazing kicking ability qualifies him as a 9-ball specialist. There's no question about Earl.

I think Archer and Varner also belong in that group.

Bustamante came in a little later and is well on his way.

Buddy was a force for sure up until recently when he got a taste of being put on a shot clock. He hated it and threatened that if he was put on the clock again, he'd unscrew. He was, and he did. He walked out of the match. That was about 2 years ago and I haven't seen him compete in a pro event since.

An underated player who's been around a long, long time and was always in the hunt is Howard Vickery. I think he deserves an honorable mention.

Fran

Sniper Steve
07-25-2003, 10:53 AM
Hard to say BUDDY isnt top two all time, he has won 9-Ball events for 5 decades and his talent is second to none. Now the second slot is a toss-up between many, fill in your own blank. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif