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spanky
08-21-2003, 12:24 PM
Played in a local 8 ball tourney this weekend and seen someone make a shot I would never have thought of let alone seen before.
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the person calmly looked around the table and said" Im going to make the 2 ball jump the 11 ball in the corner" he had about 1/2 the 11 ball to jump. I didn't get to ask him how he did it. Does anyone know how to do this. Cant remember the layout of the rest of the table but I was thinking at the time he would have to play safe, but he shot it in like he'd been doing it all his life. Has anyone else seen any other shots they'd never seen before ??

thanks,

Sid_Vicious
08-21-2003, 12:42 PM
I'd consider trying the double jump if I was jumping a sliver to maybe a quarter of an obstructing ball but not what you described here in diagram. The trick shot guys seem to find this old hat, but the general pool player, even the good ones generally speaking would only play this shot on a bet.

It is do-able as presented, but you gotta be better'n I to do it...sid

Btw If laid out exactly as shown, the natural shot would of course be the cut back to left, down table corner pocket. I assume that there was other traffic in reality. sv

UWPoolGod
08-21-2003, 12:45 PM
he had to have jumped the cueball enough to hit towards the top of the 2 and in turn jump the 2 over the 11. I have tried it on a few occasions just messing around. It is like the jump the ball out of the rack and make it trick shot. Problem is the cueball is going to fly around the table and may scratch...but may have been a better shot than the safe.

Having no other option on the 8 having left the shot hooked by the side pocket tit, and the opponents final ball hanging in the pocket I tried this shot I had saw made before by someone else. Playing BIH there weren't too many options.

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I saw another guy dart stroke a jump cue jumping the cueball over the side pocket tit to cut in the 8ball in the corner.

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Fred Agnir
08-21-2003, 12:51 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote spanky:</font><hr> the person calmly looked around the table and said" Im going to make the 2 ball jump the 11 ball in the corner" he had about 1/2 the 11 ball to jump. I didn't get to ask him how he did it. Does anyone know how to do this. <hr /></blockquote>

If the cueball is airborne when it hits the first object ball, then the object ball will also jump.

Jack up a little and strike normally so that the cueball gets in the air, but not over the first object ball. That's how you'd do the standard trick shot where you cause an object ball that's inside the wooden triangle to jump out of the triangle (and into a pocket)


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Has anyone else seen any other shots they'd never seen before ??<hr /></blockquote> Tough question, since I'd have to have seen it to tell you that I'd never seen it before. But, anyone, here's one that I shot that by the house's reaction, nobody in the room had ever seen it before.

Instroke Wei Table w/jump Shot (http://endeavor.med.nyu.edu/~wei/pool/instroke/instroke_table.html)

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I had ball in hand and didn't like any path to the 8-ball, so I jumped over the blocking balls. This shot is available more times than people might think, especially on bar tables where it's super congested, but corner pockets can take a lot.

Fred

UWPoolGod
08-21-2003, 01:07 PM
That's a good shot Fred...I'll have to add that to the bag of tricks. Never really though about that..EVER. Makes complete sense though. I probably would have tried to plow through those balls and pray for a shot.

spanky
08-21-2003, 01:10 PM
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Has anyone else seen any other shots they'd never seen before ??
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Tough question, since I'd have to have seen it to tell you that I'd never seen it before. <hr /></blockquote>

ROFLMAO. thanks Fred. I guess I should proofread my posts.

Nice jump shot.

Rod
08-21-2003, 01:43 PM
That shot at that distance plus clearing 1/2 ball is getting a little testy. It isn't too bad if you practice similar very often, It is a very old shot.

I shot this one last week in a game. It too is a very old shot and is usually overlooked in certain situations. Pocket the one, the c/b hops over the 6, goes 2 rails for perfect position. I got out and my opponent just shook his head. /ccboard/images/graemlins/confused.gif

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Wei (http://endeavor.med.nyu.edu/~wei/pool/9egg/)

Fred Agnir
08-21-2003, 04:48 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Rod:</font><hr>
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Wei (http://endeavor.med.nyu.edu/~wei/pool/9egg/) <hr /></blockquote> Beauty. This one's similar. I'm guessing the action when it hit the cushion was the same as yours. Exploding off the cushion with spin alone?

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Fred

Ralph S.
08-21-2003, 05:01 PM
Thats one helluva shot there Rod. /ccboard/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Rod
08-21-2003, 05:56 PM
Yes, the C/B was headed more towards the side. During the first two bounces the top side "straightens out" the angle, into the first rail, then the side takes over. It wasn't as dramatic as your draw shot but still very effective.

I had to hit that pretty firm, and I didn't catch all of it. As it turns out, it was enough. It surprised me!

Rod

Rod
08-21-2003, 06:02 PM
Thanks Ralph,

We all find an acorn now and then. Give it a try, if you make the ball at the right cue speed and elevation, it works pretty slick. It really doesn't have to be all that perfect to work. My position come out better than expected.

Rod

Head Hunter
08-22-2003, 01:58 PM
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Guy played this shot on me a few weeks ago. He shot the 8 in the corner and bounced the cue off the back of the pocket. It was on a bar table.

He also shot a ball and jumped over a ball to get back down table.