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08-27-2003, 08:05 PM
Schwarzenegger's Sex Talk

In 1977 interview, actor spoke of orgies, drugs, and homosexuality

AUGUST 27--Arnold Schwarzenegger once told a magazine interviewer about participating in an orgy with other bodybuilders, noting that "everybody jumped on" the woman involved and "took her upstairs where we all got together." The California Republican added that not every muscleman participated in the gang bang, "just the guys who can [censored] in front of other guys. Not everybody can do that. Some think that they don't have a big-enough [censored], so they can't get a hard-on."

Schwarzenegger's lewd talk appeared in the August 1977 issue of Oui, a now-defunct adult magazine published by Playboy. The six-page Schwarzenegger interview was conducted by author Peter Manso and flagged on the magazine's cover with the headline, "Arnold Schwarzenegger on the Sex Secrets of Bodybuilders."

At the time of the Oui story, Schwarzenegger, then 29, was appearing in "Pumping Iron," a documentary on the bodybuilding circuit. In the Q&A with Manso, today's gubernatorial wannabe spoke about his sex life, drug usage, and belief that men "shouldn't feel like fags just because they want to have nice-looking bodies."

[Click here to read the entire Schwarzenegger interview.]

Schwarzenegger even entertained a question about his penis size. When Manso asked, "Is your [censored] disproportionate to the rest of you?" Schwarzenegger replied, "Well, that depends on what you mean by disproportionate. The [censored] isn't a muscle, so it doesn't grow in relation to the shoulders, say, or the pectorals. You can't make it bigger through exercise, that's for sure." He added that "women have told me they're curious about its size--you know, outgoing chicks who're just trying to be outrageous or horny. I hear all kind of lines, including 'Oh, you're hurting me; you're so big.' But it means nothing. Bodybuilders' cocks are the same size as everyone else's."

Asked if he felt "exploited" by women who pursued him because of his physique, Schwarzenegger said, "No, I'd feel used only if I didn't get something out of it. If a girl comes on strong and says, 'I really dig your body and I want to [censored] the [censored] out of you,' I just decide whether or not I like her. If I do take her home, I try to make sure I get just as much out of it as she does. The word exploited therefore wouldn't apply." Schwarzenegger later noted that once outside the gym, he forgets about bodybuilding: "I can look at a chick who's a little out of shape and if she turns me on, I won't hesitate to date her. If she's a good [censored], she can weigh 150 pounds, I don't care."

On the practice of abstaining from sex prior to a competition, Schwarzenegger rejected that approach: "I get laid on purpose. I can't sleep before a competition and I'm up all night, anyway, so instead of staring at the ceiling I figure I might as well find somebody and [censored]." In fact, at the 1972 Mr. Olympia contest, "we had girls backstage giving head, then all of us went out and I won. It didn't bother me at all; in fact, I went out there feeling like King Kong," added Schwarzenegger.

When Manso asked whether he used "dope," Schwarzenegger replied, "Yes, grass and hash--no hard drugs. But the point is that I do what I feel like doing. I'm not on a health kick."

Asked whether he was "freaked out" by being in such close contact with guys at the gym, Schwarzenegger said, "Men shouldn't feel like fags just because they want to have nice-looking bodies...Gay people are fighting the same kind of stereotyping that bodybuilders are: People have certain misconceptions about them just as they do about us. Well, I have absolutely no hang-ups about the fag business..."

Other topics addressed by Schwarzenegger included:

* His dad Gustav, who was later revealed to have been a Nazi Party member: "My father was the local police chief and he led a very regular life."

* His early days training in Germany: "I was living in Munich at the time, hanging out with night people--entertainers, hookers, and bar owners--and I had a girlfriend who was a stripper. I was an innocent boy from a farm town, but I grew up fast in Munich."

* Southern California hijinks: "Bodybuilders party a lot, and once, in Gold's--the gym in Venice, California, where all the top guys train--there was a black girl who came out naked. Everybody jumped on her and took her upstairs, where we all got together." Asked by Manso if he was talking about a "gang bang," Schwarzenegger answered, "Yes, but not everybody, just the guys who can [censored] in front of other guys. Not everybody can do that. Some think that they don't have a big-enough [censored], so they can't get a hard-on. Having chicks around is the kind of thing that breaks up the intense training. It gives you relief, and then afterward you go back to the serious stuff."


For the heretofore censored interview:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/arnoldinter1.html

wolfdancer
08-28-2003, 01:21 AM
your point?????? Bill Clinton became "Head of State" Do we disqualify the Terminator for his trying to get ahead?
Do you think the Arnold of 1977, has the same value system as he does today??? Personally I'm not voting for him, but not because of what he did 26 yrs ago... I just don't see any qualifications on his part to be gov.

eg8r
08-28-2003, 06:07 AM
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Personally I'm not voting for him, but not because of what he did 26 yrs ago... I just don't see any qualifications on his part to be gov. <hr /></blockquote> Not that it matters, but what qualifications are you looking for? Gray Davis had all the qualifications in the world and look what he did.

I was listening to Boortz yesterday and he said he was hoping Cruz would win the recall...Not because Boortz was having brain failure, but he does not think the Californians have suffered enough. A few years back the Democrats rejoiced in the fact that they held the majority in their house, senators and the Governor. They told America to watch what they would do...Guess what, the 7th largest economy in the world is $38 billion in debt and looking to distribute drivers licenses and a right to vote to illegal immigrants.

I hope you guys out there vote for the right guy. That person, will be the one that lowers taxes and halts government spending.

eg8r

Ward
08-28-2003, 06:24 AM
E8gr

I am amazed. When a Dem has a deficit the Rep howl about how terrible it is but when the Rep have a deficit its no big deal. Look what the Rep have done to Texas, 9Billion deficit, highest insurance rates in the country.. Yea, the Rep have done a fine job in Texas. Too bad we can't recall Perry....BTW when has being qualified been a requirement for elected office.

Later

eg8r
08-28-2003, 07:11 AM
No reason to be amazed...The subject matter was the recall for California, not the fact that Texas also has a deficit let alone it is only 1/3 the problem that the Dems have in California (but that does not matter to you). If you go back and read my post, I said the right candidate would be the one that HALTS government spending.

This is the one time I am not saying to choose a person from either political party, yet you are still blinded. Open your eyes, the right person is the one that halts government spending. In fact the one that is offering that as a solution is the most middle of the road person I have seen.

eg8r

Ward
08-28-2003, 07:54 AM
E8gr

Does this apply to this administrations 500 billion debt? Bremer said yesterday that if the Iraqi oil production goes back to the level before the war it will still cost tens of billions of dollars to reconstruct Iraq... This does not take into account the lives of the soliders that we continue to lose... All for what? We got rid of a dictator but are we going after North Korea (they really have Nukes), Iran, whose is next... It is just plain stupid to me.

Later

Qtec
08-28-2003, 08:11 AM
I wont even mention the 3 million jobs lost scince GW took office. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Q

eg8r
08-28-2003, 08:40 AM
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Does this apply to this administrations 500 billion debt? <hr /></blockquote> The administration that we are talking about is California and they are not 500 million in debt.

eg8r

eg8r
08-28-2003, 08:43 AM
[ QUOTE ]
I wont even mention the 3 million jobs lost scince GW took office. <hr /></blockquote>

How many jobs were lost when Clinton was in power and the company went into recession???? This is way off subject, but maybe you can answer that question for us. You were the one with the smirk, so go for it. How many jobs were lost when Clinton was in power and the dot com industry collapsed???

eg8r

Cueless Joey
08-28-2003, 08:57 AM
Bill Clinton sold our technology to communist China.
The same technology that can be used AGAINST us.
I call that treason.
At the least GW is a not a traitor.

Qtec
08-28-2003, 09:08 AM
Who sold Saddam his WMD?

Q

Qtec
08-28-2003, 09:24 AM
I have no idea. Why dont you tell me.

Are you supposed to put party differences aside and work with a new President for the sake of the country?
All I saw when Clinton in office was a sustained attack on matters that had nothing to do with policy. The Reps did a hatchet job on Clinton, it was a disgrace.

I saw a docu about two guys [ one was in a wheelchair] who were hired to dig up dirt and generally look for ways to bring down Clinton. That whole BJ affair stank. If you ask me , he was set up .


Q
PS. You brought up Clinton.

Sid_Vicious
08-28-2003, 09:42 AM
A big DITTO! The aggression after Clinton's basically harmless escapade in the Whitehouse was atrocious, an escapade which ranked somewhere close to last place in the ranking of the most important issues of the world/country at the time. I was ashamed of our whole damn country during that time.

A very accurate comment you made, "That whole BJ affair stank."

Sid

Cueless Joey
08-28-2003, 09:53 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Qtec:</font><hr> Who sold Saddam his WMD?

Q <hr /></blockquote>
Saddam has WMD?

eg8r
08-28-2003, 10:05 AM
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I have no idea. Why dont you tell me. <font color="blue"> Selective memory seems to be creeping in. You speak of all these jobs being lost, trying to pin it on Bush, when in fact Clinton was the one in charge during the dot com failure and Clinton was the one in charge when this country went into depression. </font color>

Are you supposed to put party differences aside and work with a new President for the sake of the country? <font color="blue"> Yes. </font color>
All I saw when Clinton in office was a sustained attack on matters that had nothing to do with policy. The Reps did a hatchet job on Clinton, it was a disgrace. <font color="blue"> Call it what you want. </font color>

I saw a docu about two guys [ one was in a wheelchair] who were hired to dig up dirt and generally look for ways to bring down Clinton. That whole BJ affair stank. If you ask me , he was set up . <font color="blue"> Are you saying the Reps set Clinton up, so that he could perjure himself in a court of law?? </font color>

<hr /></blockquote>

Q, when did you wanna talk about California, since that was the subject of this thread???

eg8r

eg8r
08-28-2003, 10:17 AM
If you all remember correctly, Clinton was not impeached because of the BJ, but instead because of perjury and obstruction of justice. Mighty high crimes for a President.

If Clinton would have admitted in the beginning about his sexual escapades a lot of this would have blown over. He would have been no different than any other Kennedy in office, no different than FDR.

When it was proven that Clinton lied, it was also an eye opening to all of his testimonies about the women he raped also.

Clinton was not impeached for getting a BJ in the WH.

eg8r

Ward
08-28-2003, 10:21 AM
E8gr

Nice dodge, my point being that the Reps scream when a Dem administration has deficits but say they are not important when the Rep administration has deficits. Which way is it? Bremer said yesterday that if Iraqi oil production was restored to preware capacity it will still cost tens of billions of dolllars to complete the reconstruction. You trying to lay that on Clinton? E8gr you are young and you are going to be paying for this administration when you are my age...

Qtec
08-28-2003, 10:21 AM
He didnt lie ,. He never had 'sexual relations . Just like GW didnt lie.

Q

Qtec
08-28-2003, 10:24 AM
Even if they never reach pre-war production levels, Haliburton will still get paid .

Q

eg8r
08-28-2003, 10:40 AM
You are correct just like we will be paying for every administration before this one. I have always agreed that Bush is a spender. I just wonder if it is better in the future to pay for wartime costs, or to pay rebuilding our country because one of our Presidents gave away our nuclear technology to one country that hates us. Pick and choose, who is the lesser evil.

Did Bremer state what percentage of the tens of billions of dollars would be paid for by that oil? It is not all going to cost the US that money. The reasons for getting the oil production going is to help cover the costs.

eg8r

eg8r
08-28-2003, 10:50 AM
Ask Hillary if he had sexual relations. She seems to believe so. Read her book, she says she believed Bill when he lied, but now she cannot believe he lied to her.

The difference between the lies Clinton told, and the "lie" you are referring to with Bush, is that Clinton's intent for the lie was to mislead. Bush's intent was to pass on good info, not to mislead the public. That is the difference, hard to comprehend I guess. Clinton has lied about everything and that is no secret. It has nothing to do with being partisan or not, he is a chronic liar.

Hillary is the same type of person as Bill. She told the people of NY she would do everything she can for them. She was going to work for the people of New York. Well what happened when they had the blackout??? Hillary was trying to blame the president instead of going down and helping the people. She hung out in her home/apartment in the air conditioning with full electricity (she had a backup generator) blaming Bush. The woman is living a lie, we will see if the people of NY change their minds come next election (if she does not run for President).

There is just a giant trend of lies for the Clintons. It all started way back when in Arkansas and continued all the way to the WH and NY Senate.

eg8r

Ward
08-28-2003, 11:28 AM
Eg8r

The article I read in the Washington Post said that in addition to the revenue of Iraqi oil when it gets up to production it will cost additional tens of millions... This administration should learn the holes theory, when you are in a hole quit digging....

Later

Ward
08-28-2003, 11:30 AM
Senior monent should read tens of billions

Later

eg8r
08-28-2003, 11:36 AM
That is surprising. Do you have a link to the article, or was it on the news?

eg8r

Rich R.
08-28-2003, 11:44 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote eg8r:</font><hr> Well what happened when they had the blackout??? Hillary was trying to blame the president instead of going down and helping the people. She hung out in her home/apartment in the air conditioning with full electricity (she had a backup generator) blaming Bush. <hr /></blockquote>
I don't want to butt in on your non-partisan bashing, but I would like to know what you expected Hillary to do during the black out?
Did you expect her to go to the corner and hand out flashlights or invite the whole neighborhood over for a slumber party? /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

eg8r
08-28-2003, 11:46 AM
It might have been alright if she was out with the Governor and handing out water??? Do something instead of use that incident as some sort of way to further push your political agenda.

If she was really for the people, then she would be doing something at that point to help out. Instead she was using their problems to try and help herself.

eg8r

Nightstalker
08-28-2003, 11:51 AM
Hillary is like the other hypocrite politicians. I wonder when are we going to get back to the topic of this thread? I suppose the Arnold haters have given up.....

Ward
08-28-2003, 01:18 PM
E8gr

Go to the Washington Post, do a search on Bremer, and you will see the article. It is pretty interesting as this a Bush administrator...

Later

Wally_in_Cincy
08-28-2003, 02:02 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote eg8r:</font><hr> It might have been alright if she was out with the Governor and handing out water??? .......<hr /></blockquote>

Actually a nice blender of pina coladas would have been nice.

eg8r
08-28-2003, 02:21 PM
Here is the link. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A56570-2003Aug27.html)

It was pretty interesting. I am quite sure we will allow other countries to come in and help (financially also), but the whole rebuilding process will still be under the US control. I just hope France, Germany and Russia are left out. They were the biggest opponents to the war, and should not be allowed to help rebuild a country that they did not want to help free.

Thanks for the article.

eg8r

Rich R.
08-28-2003, 07:21 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote eg8r:</font><hr> If she was really for the people, then she would be doing something at that point to help out. Instead she was using their problems to try and help herself.<hr /></blockquote>
Isn't that what politicians do?????

I don't know if you have ever seen a politician "helping the people", but I have seen it first hand. They show up and do, whatever they are suppose to be doing to help, for about ten minutes. Just long enough for the press to get the pictures. Most often, they hold up the help, that is really being given to the people, by other volunteers.

Now I know there are exceptions to all of this, so don't jump on me, because you know one politician who really helped. I'm just talking about instances which I have seen, and I have seen a number of them.

Qtec
08-29-2003, 02:11 AM
I guess you must have missed this.[ same page ,on the right]

[ QUOTE ]
Halliburton's Deals Greater Than Thought

By Michael Dobbs
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, August 28, 2003; Page A01


Halliburton, the company formerly headed by Vice President Cheney, has won contracts worth more than $1.7 billion under Operation Iraqi Freedom and stands to make hundreds of millions more dollars under a no-bid contract awarded by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers , according to newly available documents.



The size and scope of the government contracts awarded to Halliburton in connection with the war in Iraq are significantly greater than was previously disclosed and demonstrate the U.S. military's increasing reliance on for-profit corporations to run its logistical operations. Independent experts estimate that as much as one-third of the monthly $3.9 billion cost of keeping U.S. troops in Iraq is going to independent contractors
<hr /></blockquote>

I rest my case.

Q

Ward
08-29-2003, 06:00 AM
Eg8r

I think that will be the sticking point, I think the US will have to give up some control to get monetary contributions from the UN.. We will see

Later

Wally_in_Cincy
08-29-2003, 06:25 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Rich R.:</font><hr>
I don't know if you have ever seen a politician "helping the people", but I have seen it first hand. They show up and do, whatever they are suppose to be doing to help, for about ten minutes. Just long enough for the press to get the pictures. Most often, they hold up the help, that is really being given to the people, by other volunteers.

Now I know there are exceptions to all of this, so don't jump on me, because you know one politician who really helped. I'm just talking about instances which I have seen, and I have seen a number of them. <hr /></blockquote>

LOL ain't that the truth. I guess Guiliani might be an exception.

The Ohio River flooded real bad in 1997. I remember Al Gore walking down to the river's edge in his "work" boots and standing in 2-inch deep water with a feigned look of concern. I guess, like Moses, he was going to force the flood to recede /ccboard/images/graemlins/laugh.gif. Too funny.

Gore also showed up after a tornado ripped thru affluent Montgomery, OH, just outside Cincy. He promised disaster relief. Well guess what, the Clinton admin. refused to declare that a disaster area despite about 100 totally destroyed homes. They knew there was probably not more than 2 or 3 Democrats in the whole town. LOL

Southwest OH should be renamed Republican-natti. I don't know why it is. It just is. /ccboard/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Wally_in_Cincy
08-29-2003, 06:29 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Qtec:</font><hr> Halliburton, the company formerly headed by Vice President Cheney, has won contracts worth more than $1.7 billion under Operation Iraqi Freedom and stands to make hundreds of millions more dollars under a no-bid contract awarded by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers , according to newly available documents.



<hr /></blockquote>

Don't ya just love capitalism.... Ha Ha Ha Ha /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Get used to it Q. That's the way the world works. Or you could start your own company to build bridges and oil wells and dams and skyscrapers. Piece o' cake right? /ccboard/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Qtec
08-29-2003, 06:57 AM
Wally, of course deals are done , this is nothing new .

What is new, is the blatant disrespect for the truth, the people of America and the World as a whole.

This Admin commits one act of obvious coruption and then proceeds to surpass it with another.Surely the Govts job is to get the best deal for the country. The first contract was for 400 million +-. The excuse given for a NO-BID contract was expediency. Now that contract has been lenghtened, again no bidding. Please tell me how this is good for America or are you happy to let D.Cheny reward his ex company with your money.Thats what it comes down to .

Iraq might cost YOU money but GW,the Carlyle club, Haliburton, the oil industry and the Weapon industry will all make their cash.

GW and co are in power to serve their own interests, not neccesarily America,s long term interests.


Q

Wally_in_Cincy
08-29-2003, 07:15 AM
The biggest problem in this country is the Feds, states, and localities spending too much and wasting too much. I could give a rat's patoot about Haliburton or Bechtel getting a sweetheart contract. It's a drop in the bucket. IMO

Qtec
08-29-2003, 07:29 AM
Its not just the money.

They invaded another country. Many have died and will continue to do so.
I dont see that the world is a safer place now.

If all this has been done for personal interests and not for America,s interests ,then its treason.

That doesnt bother you?

Q

Wally_in_Cincy
08-29-2003, 07:53 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Qtec:</font><hr> Its not just the money.

They invaded another country. Many have died and will continue to do so.
I dont see that the world is a safer place now.

<font color="blue">No Saddam = safer world /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif </font color>

If all this has been done for personal interests and not for America,s interests ,then its treason.

<font color="blue">Dude you are paranoid. </font color>

That doesnt bother you?

<font color="blue">Not really. </font color>
<hr /></blockquote>

eg8r
08-29-2003, 10:01 AM
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What is new, is the blatant disrespect for the truth, the people of America and the World as a whole. <hr /></blockquote> How is this new.. Without walking through our entire history, go back to FDR, JFK, Nixon, Clinton, etc and read about their mistruths. Where is your memory of these people.

eg8r

Qtec
08-29-2003, 10:15 AM
At least they had the decency to try and hide their actions.
GW and Co. dont even bother. They dont give a $hit.


The whole point of History is that we can learn from our mistakes. It is not a licence to repeat them.
ie, just because a former President lied or was corrupt, doesnt make it ok for todays President to do the same.

Q

eg8r
08-29-2003, 11:01 AM
[ QUOTE ]
At least they had the decency to try and hide their actions.
GW and Co. dont even bother. They dont give a $hit. <font color="blue"> They never tried to hide any of it, well except Nixon. </font color>


The whole point of History is that we can learn from our mistakes. <font color="blue"> Get off your soapbox...The whole point of my post was to show you that nothing is new. You are the one that said it was new, I showed you were wrong. Do not go into whether we should learn from mistakes, because frankly none of those men I mentioned think they made a mistake. They are only upset because they were caught. </font color>

It is not a licence to repeat them.
ie, just because a former President lied or was corrupt, doesnt make it ok for todays President to do the same. <font color="blue"> Who said it was. You missed the point, but hopefully that is cleared up a little higher on this post. </font color> <hr /></blockquote>

eg8r

Qtec
08-29-2003, 11:31 AM
[ QUOTE ]
How is this new.. Without walking through our entire history, go back to FDR, JFK, Nixon, Clinton, etc and read about their mistruths. Where is your memory of these people.

eg8r
<hr /></blockquote>

Well, based on past record,seeing as all Presidents lie through their teeth , why do you have this blind faith in GW .
The odds are that he is lying, but you continue to see him as genuine.

Why is that?



Q

eg8r
08-29-2003, 11:49 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Why is that?
<hr /></blockquote> I never said I believe him with blind faith. Did I?

eg8r

eg8r
08-30-2003, 09:42 PM
I totally agree. However the US will still be running the show. The UN will be given some work and that should be it.

eg8r