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Qtec
09-11-2003, 05:35 AM
I was watching the trick shot guys jumping balls with a normal cue[ length].No problem. I saw Alex Leley jump over 4 bals only use one hand.

Like Earl says, you should only be allowed to jump with a " man,s cue".

Or learn to kick like E.Reyes.

Qtec

nAz
09-11-2003, 06:30 AM
I hate when people use those "regulation size" jump cues. seems like it takes a way from the game, you play a decent save and boom some bum pulls out the jumper. can't wait till they ban it from league play. I'd rather they try it with their playing Cue like Earl says.

Qtec
09-11-2003, 07:29 AM
Exactly.

What about you can use a jump cue, but only if your opponent uses one.


What if you havent got a jump cue, should one be provided? Why should you be at a disadvantage because you havent got a jump cue?

Q

Rich R.
09-11-2003, 07:48 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote nAz:</font><hr> can't wait till they ban it from league play. <hr /></blockquote>
Jump cues are not allowed in APA league play now. Although they do allow jumping, it must be done with your playing cue.

Rich R.
09-11-2003, 07:53 AM
Currently in most tournament play, a player is allowed up to three cues. Most players take a playing cue, a break cue and a jump cue.

If only two cues were allowed, would players choose to brake with their playing cue, and keep the jump cue, or would they keep the break cue and learn to jump with the playing cue?

Iowashark
09-11-2003, 08:02 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Rich R.:</font><hr> Jump cues are not allowed in APA league play now. Although they do allow jumping, it must be done with your playing cue. <hr /></blockquote>

I don't have a rule book handy, but the rule states something about not taking any shots where your elbow is below the butt of your cue, or the butt of your cue above your shoulder, or something like that.

The point of the rule is to discourage the use of jump shots or masse shots. If anyone has an APA rule book handy I would like to know how the rule is worded. Went and made myself curious.

I, however, am a fan of the jump cue. I think using a jump cue is only as cheap as the safety that makes you use it. Break and run or get out of the way.

Head Hunter
09-11-2003, 08:13 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Iowashark:</font><hr> <blockquote><font class="small">Quote Rich R.:</font><hr> Jump cues are not allowed in APA league play now. Although they do allow jumping, it must be done with your playing cue. <hr /></blockquote>

I don't have a rule book handy, but the rule states something about not taking any shots where your elbow is below the butt of your cue, or the butt of your cue above your shoulder, or something like that.

The point of the rule is to discourage the use of jump shots or masse shots. If anyone has an APA rule book handy I would like to know how the rule is worded. Went and made myself curious.

I, however, am a fan of the jump cue. I think using a jump cue is only as cheap as the safety that makes you use it. Break and run or get out of the way. <hr /></blockquote>

There is no such rule. You can go online to the APA website and look it up. This is one of the rules that everyone seems to think exists but it never has. Email the APA if you want a definite answer.

nAz
09-11-2003, 01:08 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Rich R.:</font><hr> If only two cues were allowed, would players choose to brake with their playing cue, and keep the jump cue, or would they keep the break cue and learn to jump with the playing cue? <hr /></blockquote>

Probably keep the playing cue and the break cue, break cue is too important not to have.
I have a jump break cue (Mace) but i rarely use it, its much easier for me to kick out rather then unscrew it and make a jump. Thank god i know some 3C. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Keith Talent
09-11-2003, 02:41 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Qtec:</font><hr>
What about you can use a jump cue, but only if your opponent uses one.

What if you havent got a jump cue, should one be provided? Why should you be at a disadvantage because you havent got a jump cue?

Q <hr /></blockquote>

So, maybe the state could raise taxes and provide them to economically disadvantaged players? /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

jjinfla
09-11-2003, 03:27 PM
On the APA website you can download the rule book and the manual.

In the manual: 33. Equipment (Page 41)

...Jump shots are legal, when executed properly (see JUMP SHOTS described in Definitions), but such shots must be attempted using your regular game cue. Those cues especially designed for jump shots MAY NOT be used in competition. Players are not allowed to break their cues down to attempt jump shots.

They also outlaw laser devices.

They also allow one cue stick for breaking and another cue stick for shooting.

Jake

Wally_in_Cincy
09-12-2003, 06:43 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Keith Talent:</font><hr>

So, maybe the state could raise taxes and provide them to economically disadvantaged players? /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif <hr /></blockquote>

That would make perfect sense to Western Europeans. Heck I would be all for socialism if the state ran free pool halls with food provided from USDA surplus like the school lunch program. I would get tired of cheese sandwiches though.

On second thought maybe not. The walls of the pool hall would be painted battleship grey like the Bureau of Motor Vehicles and they would have those obnoxious labor-law posters everywhere. How depressing.

pooltchr
09-12-2003, 06:49 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Wally_in_Cincy:</font><hr> <blockquote><font class="small">Quote Keith Talent:</font><hr>

So, maybe the state could raise taxes and provide them to economically disadvantaged players? /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif <hr /></blockquote>

The walls of the pool hall would be painted battleship grey like the Bureau of Motor Vehicles and they would have those obnoxious labor-law posters everywhere. How depressing. <hr /></blockquote>

You've obviously not been in some of the rooms I have had to play in. I have played in a room that was an old gas station converted to a bar. What you are describing sounds "Upscale"!