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Qtec
10-15-2003, 09:21 AM
Kato got me thinking about the old NA. There is another rule that is used in snooker which is also applicable to pool. Take this position- wei (http://endeavor.med.nyu.edu/~wei/pool/pooltable2.html)

START(
%A[5\2%BZ8\5%Em5G6%FJ7K4%GI9N9%HM7I9%IM9L4%Pm3O6%QJ3R 4%RP2O6
%SK5Z8%T\1Z4%UL2R6%Vh1C6%WK9Z3%XK0L3%Y[3Y9%ZK3L0%[i3D3%\l5H1
%]X9Y7%^h3C7%_M5[8%`V5[3%a\0Z9%bl9I6%cl8L4%dl9N9
)END

To get from the 5 to the 6, a lot of people will instinctivley play with a little draw or OE to avoid the middle pocket. The ball then travels along the yellow line towards point A.
On this line, the only points that you can pot the 6 from are between points A and B.
A small margine of error.

Using the NA you can land the ball between points C and D and give yourself a better chance of seeing enough of the ball to pot it.

The rule is , basically, in positions when you have a low margin of error, the Qb , after it hits the last rail, should travel on a line drawn through the Ob and the pocket, or as near as pos.


Its a simple rule that will help you in momments of pressure.

But of course, you have to know the what the natural angle is. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

My 2ct.

Qtec

Steve Lipsky
10-15-2003, 10:18 AM
Great post, Qtec. Situations like this show the importance of knowledge in this game. The most talented player in the world can play this shot incorrectly (as you state) and get safe half the time. The average player, armed with the knowledge of how to play it correctly, can get on this ball 95% of the time.

I love watching great players choose their patterns. You can learn so much. Take this position from the recent Fury Pro tournament:

START(
%AT2U0%CY4P3%DO0I7%Eh3U0%Fh4Z0%GF8Q5%Hh6F1%Id0S5%P W8X8

)END

Jose Parica had a layout like this. I was sitting with a good player and we were discussing the obvious problem on the table, which was the 5 ball. Well, it was no problem to Parica. He surprised us with something when he was walking around the table planning his run. Kudos to you if you can figure it out. He turned a very dangerous table into a joke with one brilliant idea:

START(
%AT2U0%CY4P3%DO0I7%Eh3U0%Fh4Z0%GF8Q5%Hh6F1%Id0S5%P W8X8%Qs6B3

)END

He lined up the 5 in pocket A! And he did it almost immediately. Look at the out that he played, and that he played perfectly. I will remove the 1, the 3, the 7, and the 8 balls:

START(
%DO0I7%Eh3U0%Fh4Z0%Id0S5%PT5R1%Qs6B3%R^7Y2%UQ4D6%V O6I3%WP1J7
%XT0Q2%Y^7Y6%ZQ9C7%[g5V1%\`1Y7%]r4W5%^h0U9%_c3Y0%`i6X3%as1W9
)END

("B" is where the cueball landed after the 4.)

Anyway, I learned something very significant from that pattern and wanted to pass it on.

- Steve

Fred Agnir
10-15-2003, 10:58 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Qtec:</font><hr> Kato got me thinking about the old NA. There is another rule that is used in snooker which is also applicable to pool. Take this position- wei (http://endeavor.med.nyu.edu/~wei/pool/pooltable2.html)

START(
%A[5\2%BZ8\5%Em5G6%FJ7K4%GI9N9%HM7I9%IM9L4%Pm3O6%QJ3R 4%RP2O6
%SK5Z8%T\1Z4%UL2R6%Vh1C6%WK9Z3%XK0L3%Y[3Y9%ZK3L0%[i3D3%\l5H1
%]X9Y7%^h3C7%_M5[8%`V5[3%a\0Z9%bl9I6%cl8L4%dl9N9
)END


Using the NA you can land the ball between points B and C and give yourself a better chance of seeing enough of the ball to pot it. <hr /></blockquote>

Did you mean D and C, or did I completely misunderstand your post?

Fred

Rod
10-15-2003, 11:15 AM
Hi Steve,

To me, getting to the 5 which is a key ball is not the most critical factor. Position on the three with the correct angle for leaving position on the 4 is critical. I would follow the one for position on the three to pocket A, then draw the c/b a few inches for a great angle on th 4. Playing the three to the side could be better if there is enough angle. I don't want whitey to end up frozen to the side rail. The one looks dead straight in so I chose the three to the corner. That angle can be less than perfect and still leave a good angle on the 4.

Rod

Steve Lipsky
10-15-2003, 11:20 AM
Hey Rod. You are probably right. To be honest, I have no idea where the 1 ball was in the actual layout Parica had. I just put it up on the WEI in an area that was not critical, because I knew it was on the table.

Sorry for the misunderstanding, Rod... that was silly of me. Anyway, as I look at the diagram, I agree with you.

Thanks,
Steve

Rod
10-15-2003, 11:48 AM
No problem Steve, I thought it was a test. LOL Mess up position on that three and it could make the game a lot more interesting.

Rod

Qtec
10-15-2003, 12:12 PM
Yes.
Thanks anyway for your input.

Q

SPetty
10-15-2003, 12:12 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Fred Agnir:</font><hr> Did you mean D and C, or did I completely misunderstand your post?<hr /></blockquote>Geez, Fred, there you go reading and comprehending again! /ccboard/images/graemlins/wink.gif

RUNaRAK
10-15-2003, 12:23 PM
Forgive my ignorance, but I have no idea how to read the table situations that you all post.. START(
%A[5\2%BZ8\5%Em5G6%FJ7K4%GI9N9%HM7I9%IM9L4%Pm3O6%QJ3R 4%RP2O6
%SK5Z8%T\1Z4%UL2R6%Vh1C6%WK9Z3%XK0L3%Y[3Y9%ZK3L0%[i3D3%\l5H1
%]X9Y7%^h3C7%_M5[8%`V5[3%a\0Z9%bl9I6%cl8L4%dl9N9
)END
How do you interpret this stuff. Please let me know.

Joe

Candyman
10-15-2003, 01:00 PM
http://endeavor.med.nyu.edu/~wei/pool/pooltable2_help.html

If you click on this site it should tell you everything you need to see the layouts. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Qtec
10-15-2003, 01:05 PM
First copy this [with right click on mouse]

START(
%A[5\2%BZ8\5%Em5G6%FJ7K4%GI9N9%HM7I9%IM9L4%Pm3O6%QJ3R 4%RP2O6
%SK5Z8%T\1Z4%UL2R6%Vh1C6%WK9Z3%XK0L3%Y[3Y9%ZK3L0%[i3D3%\l5H1
%]X9Y7%^h3C7%_M5[8%`V5[3%a\0Z9%bl9I6%cl8L4%dl9N9
)END

Then click on this [ wei] (http://endeavor.med.nyu.edu/~wei/pool/pooltable2.html)

and paste.


Q

Qtec
10-16-2003, 04:29 PM
Thanks Steve.

You are a gentleman, but obviously not a clubbie. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Q

Steve Lipsky
10-16-2003, 07:50 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Qtec:</font><hr> Thanks Steve.

You are a gentleman, but obviously not a clubbie. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Q <hr /></blockquote>

Hey Q. Thanks. But I must bite... what is a clubbie??

- Steve