View Full Version : Is action dead in your town??
10-27-2003, 05:49 PM
I'm just trying to get a grasp on the pool scene in other towns. Here in Chicago, absolutely nothing is going on. It is pulling teeth to get someone to play. I have heard a few other places are having the same problem. Just wondering if it is a nation wide epidemic /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
10-27-2003, 06:10 PM
There is action in every town, of course you have to be willing to play fair games. Whenever I hear someone say, "There is no action around here". What they really mean is, no suckers. I am sure there are good players around they could match up with, (something they avoid at all costs), or a willing weaker player that may need a little weight, again something they are unlikely to do. So they sit around saying, "Nobody in this place has any gamble in them," when in fact, they are the ones with no real gamble. Just an observation
10-27-2003, 06:11 PM
Just depends on how big of action you are asking about. There are still lots of people willing to play $5/rack and such. Saw some people playing race to 3 8ball for $25 where one player had to shoot behind his back. Not a huge spot but he ended up losing. Haven't been to any poolhalls down here in Vancouver/Portland since I moved so not sure about the big boys.
10-27-2003, 06:29 PM
Well said popcorn. To answer the question, action definitely isn't dead. Plenty here, sometimes you just have to look a little harder for it. The days of true hustling are gone since todays players are smarter and the fact we live in a culture or time period where gambling is more evident and common place, people just tend to be more cautious so they dont get hustled.
10-27-2003, 06:53 PM
Hay Sarah- There is no action to speak of in NYC and there hasn't been any in quite a while. I think Florida is a good bet come the colder weather. They actually match up during daylight hours down there. Everywhere else it seems action is banned until midnite and then half the time the games dont come off and its too late to find another.
Also as a whole, i think most of the good action is in one pocket most everywhere these days. Most of the older players have some cash and dont have to depend on a backer, hence matching up is much easier.
Anyway, I should be headed for Florida after the Nationals. If you can get to So Fl this winter PM me- Im pretty sure i could get you a good nine ball game! Take it easy with that break though. That's gonna scare a lot of people away. IM serious, anyone seeing you break is going to know they aren't playing a casual player.
10-27-2003, 07:07 PM
all the action went to the casinos. disposable income found a new home. pool rooms were one of the few places where you could openly gamble. before the casino opened in my town you could see 200-500 sets nightly now if anybody bets 50 bucks it might be on the local news.
mike in des moines (where we are getting a pool hall)
10-27-2003, 07:17 PM
Good Point! So many other ways to gamble these days.
Maybe that is why it's different in Florida. I've only been to one so called casino there and all they had was slot machines-no blackjack, no roulette-Slot machines period! Couldnt wait to get out of there. Cant imagine those kinds of casinos could draw many real gamblers!
10-27-2003, 07:27 PM
Where do you go in Florida?
10-27-2003, 07:29 PM
A little north of Lauderdale. The casino was the Micosukkee or something close in west Miami
10-27-2003, 07:49 PM
Sarah, I live near Philly, and there's an unbelievable amount of action around here lately. It's not just the top players either. B and C players are matching up for respectable sums, and lots of "corporations" have been formed lately just to get some extra cash out there. 9-ball, one-hole, 14.1, banks, you name it, players are matching up in it. Haven't seen it like this around here in forever.
10-27-2003, 08:16 PM
There is a fair amount of action in this part of Canada. Everything from the small $20 sets up to a $5000 set of nineball.
10-27-2003, 09:24 PM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Nostroke:</font><hr> Maybe that is why it's different in Florida. I've only been to one so called casino there and all they had was slot machines-no blackjack, no roulette-Slot machines period! Couldnt wait to get out of there. Cant imagine those kinds of casinos could draw many real gamblers! <hr /></blockquote>
Don't forget the Bingo, they also had Bingo!
Barbara~~~didn't bet a nickel there, either.
10-27-2003, 09:45 PM
I guess if you got no gamble in you at all the break could scare you some. Bring a big break south of Orlando and leave broke...tons of guys down here that eat that stuff up!!
10-28-2003, 02:42 AM
For everyone's information who thought I may be asking this question to get an easy game...you are wrong. I don't get to play any easy games ever. If I want to play around here I have to give something ridiculous like 4 games to 7 to get someone who needs only the 7 if that or people who need to give me the 8 at least I have to play even. I was just asking out of curiousity because I have heard alot of people talking lately saying action is dead all around because everyone is playing poker now. I was at a pool room the other day...Chris' Billiards..known worldwide as a place for action in Chicago. 40 pool players in the room, 20 that play better than me, sitting around watching, unwilling to match up. That is what I mean by no action...fair games that won't match up. Everyone around here knows that I gamble and I am usually the only one trying to make a game and not scared to play.
And don't worry about the break....I break like a girl /ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
10-28-2003, 04:59 AM
Tap. Tap, Tap. I agree 100%.
10-28-2003, 05:23 AM
Don't take it so hard Sarah. Nothing is personal. Chris' was always a hard place to find action as long as I've known it. They all want the dead nuts. You always found action at John Abbruzo' place or Tom Karabotsis(sp) places. I know John Zaksus(sp) place always had action.
Try tourneys. That's where you can match up easy. At the WC Open I beat a guy and he wanted to play some $100 sets. LOL I love it when you bruise an ego. LOL If I didn't have a back to back match I could have won some doe. Matter of fact, every tourney except for one I didn't find action if I wanted it. The Green Room is a good place too. You have to get out there. You may not want to but you have to at your speed.
BTW, I break like a girl too. /ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif
10-28-2003, 07:00 AM
I agree with you, Sarah. How frustrating is it to go in to a PH with players all over the place, but they won't get up from their card games, unless it's for a cake walk! There's a lot of jaded pool players out there who I swear don't actually care for the game itself, all they care about is the money, and they won't even get out of their chair unless it is easy money /ccboard/images/graemlins/frown.gif
The tournament suggestion is probably a good one -- at least the players there are willing to stick their neck out and get in.
I have no pool room near me, so always have to travel to find competition, it drives me nuts to drive an hour or two only to find a room full of bickering hagglers who will natter on all day trying to finagle a lock -- they don't care if they step to the table or not. God forbid they should step to the table in an actual even match :rolleyes:
Sure makes you appreciate players that actually like to step up for a challenge...
10-28-2003, 07:06 AM
Most of the action I see is after the tournaments. Lots of players get some bad rolls during the matches, and then look to get it back after the tourny is over. This also gives you a chance to see other player's game and usually gets pretty good money matches later in the evening.
10-28-2003, 07:08 AM
Action is not dead in the DFW area, want one pocket action then go to CJ's in Dallas or Click's in Arlington (Bring plenty of cash) or looking for 9 ball, go to either Rusty's, Arlington or Fort Worth.
10-28-2003, 07:40 AM
Nothing going on in Ocala, Florida. Local guys play each other for 5, 10, 20 sets, but that's it. A new guy walks in looking for a $50 set he might get one set, but if he wins the game is over.
Most of the gamblers seem to have given the game up, or moved, or now just play the sure win games.
10-28-2003, 09:19 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Popcorn:</font><hr> There is action in every town, of course you have to be willing to play fair games. Whenever I hear someone say, "There is no action around here". What they really mean is, no suckers. I am sure there are good players around they could match up with, (something they avoid at all costs), or a willing weaker player that may need a little weight, again something they are unlikely to do. So they sit around saying, "Nobody in this place has any gamble in them," when in fact, they are the ones with no real gamble. Just an observation <hr /></blockquote>
Popcorn, I have a system for getting action. This was suggested to me by a mentor I was lucky to have when I came back to the game in the mid to late 70's. His suggestion was: when you leave the house to go play pool(hopefully play pool that is) you count your money, that money which you are willing to wager that day/night, then you divide it by ten. That is the number of your bullets and anyone that offers or excepts a game that falls within your bullet limit has got your action no questions asked.
Ex: I leave the house with $100 I am willing to bet. I have ten $10 bullets. I like to have ten bullets and I figure if a guy beats me out of them he deserves the money. Now I enter the ph and walk up to the players sitting around looking for that can't lose game and say "You guys are looking at some 9-ball action here. Who wants it?" The first guy who suggest a game that falls with in your predetermined limit gets the action no questions asked. The point is you get action quickly and you don't care who it is. It gets the ball rolling as it where...if it is obvious you have made a bad game start the adjustment discussion, if he won't adjust quit him and go to the next guy in line and restart the process...of course this all sounds easy and cut & dried which it isn't but in a general sense it cuts out alot of bull$hit and gives you a good rep as a player with heart who is good action. If you like to gamble this is the best rep you can have.
In the long run you end up playing more, playing different players(some out of your league some not) and you don't waste a bunch of time wondering if you should play this guy or that guy. You just play w/o pondering all that crap. If you are doing this in one place you get to know the players and how to play them. What they learn about you is that when they see you come thru the front door if they want your action they better get off their dead a$$......LOL
The cheese thinks he will take some flack for this one...... /ccboard/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /ccboard/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
10-28-2003, 09:22 AM
I too was at Chris's last Wed. and Fri. but plenty of stuff was happening. A roady was in town. Lots of action.
I got the feeling that the roady was going to win big over the weekend.../ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif but haven't gone there to find out what happened.
The Rhino Chaser
10-28-2003, 12:18 PM
I might have to agree. I was in Toledo OH the other day and for the first time in six years. There was no action to be found. Usually when you walk in to the room, I was at. Four guys ask you for a game as soon as you step in the door. Don't know why this is but that's the way it was. However things will be jumping in a couple weeks when the Glass City Open rolls into town.
Chris in NC
10-28-2003, 12:55 PM
One problem not mentioned when two players are considering matching up is whether either one of them knows how much the other player has in his pocket or how much the other player is willing or able to lose?
Take the example of two fairly evenly matched players, one has $1,000 on him and the other has $100 on him. The one with the $1,000 to play with would be a fool to get in this match - as he can't win more than $100, whereas he may lose 10 times that amount! For the player with the $100 it's a great opportunity.
This is why IMO players in a poolroom who are familiar with each other, know each other's gambling habits and how much the various players are likely to lose before they pull up don't wish to match up - because of the differences in how much can be won or lost by each player.
When playing a unknown player (for example) $100 sets and at some point when you're up a number of sets he wants to change the wager to $50 sets, that is a dead giveaway that he is virtually out of money. That's the time to quit unless he's willing to continue at the same wager. At that point you know he only has $50 left to lose, so why risk losing everything you have just to win no more than another $50?
I don't think it's ever wise for either player (particularly involving unknown players that don't know each other) to reveal how much they have to play with (or are willing to lose) going in to a match. If you did, it would change everything. - Chris in NC
10-28-2003, 03:19 PM
I agree with the tournament idea as well. I go to every tournament during the week. Alot of the poolrooms close before the tournament is even over or people say they are tired and have to work in the morning..valid point..but not at 9pm. Plus, they are tough with the handicap systems, but that is natural that things would be a little out of whack when it comes to handicaps. But, the tournaments are the best way of getting to play, it is pretty much all the action. That is fine, I get to play. It is just fun to get other action and get to play for a long time with the same person.
rukiddingme....the road player didn't win at Chris' I went on thursday night and he lost a couple games for some pretty big money. I'm not sure about any other days though.
How about this crazy problem.....everyone loses and bets high with the road players but not with people they can find everyday.
10-28-2003, 07:13 PM
Howdy Jin Florida,
Is `Sharky` still living in Ocala?Cheers
10-28-2003, 11:40 PM
Action is definatley dead in my country /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif
11-06-2003, 11:55 AM
There will always be action it just depends if one is willing to give or take odds. A meeting of the minds and the action will flow.
11-06-2003, 01:46 PM
Iused to get all kinds of action in Daytona.
Now, if they don't know you, they won't play
you. Strictly tourneys & no action after the
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