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Qtec
11-03-2003, 11:48 PM
The Meaning of "Mission Accomplished"
Big Lies and Little Lies
By DAVE LINDORFF

Remember when George Bush the candidate said he would restore integrity to the White House?

The reference, of course, was to the Clinton White House, which had gained a certain notoriety because of Bill Clinton's famous finger-wagging episode, when he told the American public that "I did not have sex with that woman," and for his later performance under grilling by Ken Starr, when he said his answer to a question depended on "what the definition of `is' is."

Bush, the Andover Prep grad who adopted a Texan drawl and the mein of a straight-shootin' cowboy for the campaign, managed to convince a scandal-weary public that he wouldn't stoop to such things. He'd tell it straight.

Of course, we've had some pretty big whoppers out of this White House, and this president since then. There was the Niger yellow cake tale, the supposed bio and chemical weapons in Iraq, and the lie that the president was flying around the country in Air Force One after the 9/11 attacks because of a supposed threat to attack Air Force One, for example. There was the lie that he'd fund Americorps. There was the lie that he would be the Education President. But the real classic, the lie that puts him right down there with Cheatin' Bill, came at Bush's last press conference.

That's when he denied, in response to a reporter's question, that the White House had been responsible for a big red, white and blue banner saying "Mission Accomplished," placed prominently across the front of the superstructure of the carrier Abraham Lincoln on the occasion of Bush's staged jet landing on the ship on May 1. It wasn't the White House advance team that planned that backdrop, Bush told reporters and the viewing public with a straight face. It was those Navy lads on the ship. And by the way, that phrase didn't refer to the War in Iraq, he continued. It referred to the ship's mission. which was indeed over.

Uh-huh.

The White House was quickly forced to admit that in fact, not only was the banner and the slogan the White House's idea; the White House had produced and delivered said banner to the ship in time t o have it mounted for the president's landing stunt.

Of course the president knew this when he lied to the press about its pedigree.

But he was in a jam. George Bush is just not the kind of guy who likes to admit when he's goofed.

As the guerrilla war heats up in Iraq, and the numbers of American dead mount, he "mission accomplished" line, like the "Bring 'em on" line, is returning to haunt him. But this time, instead of just showing him to be out of touch, we see the real character of the man. Caught in an embarrassing situation, he'd prefer to lie his way out than face up to his responsibility.

If he'd gone to law school instead of business school, Bush might have said it all depends upon what your definition of "mission" is. As it is, though, he's stuck looking very much like the little boy with cookie crumbs on his lips who denies that he broke the cookie jar.

This incident could prove to be Bush's undoing.

Americans are a cynical lot when it comes to politics. We know that the political class is basically a bunch of thieves and extortionists, but we expect their crimes and deceits to be of epic proportions. If a presidential candidate takes a million dollars from the pharmaceutical industry and then has the FDA grant extended patents to them, or takes millions from Boeing and then grants the aircraft maker a six-billion-dollar sweetheart lease on planes for the Pentagon it could have bought outright for much less, nobody gets worked up. That's the way Washington works, we figure.

But tell a little lie, whether it's about some nookie on the side or some questionable campaign trick, and people feel angry and insulted.

That's what Bush has done now. In trying to blame his ineptness and false optimism concerning the Iraq War by laying it on the guys in the sailor suits, this son of privelege has insulted our intelligence. Worse yet, he got caught. Even rank-and-file Republicans are miffed.

As voters, we're willing to forget many things. We'll forget about the stealing of an election, about scandals like the doctoring of a report on global warming, even about the deliberate outing of a CIA agent. But we won't forget being taken for yokels with a cheap lie.

If the gang of Democrats running for president are smart, they'll start using the phrase "Mission Accomplished" as often as possible as a laughline in their speeches. If they do that, by the time the campaign for president is in full swing next fall, the Democratic presidential candidate will be able to run "Small Soldiers" ads featuring action figure George Bush strutting around in front of a "Mission Accomplished" banner.



Just about says it all.
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Q

Wally_in_Cincy
11-04-2003, 08:43 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Qtec:</font><hr>

.....the supposed bio and chemical weapons in Iraq,...

<font color="blue">You mean the WMD that Clinton, Kennedy, Albright, Berger , Pelosi and many more (all Democrats) also said that Saddam had? (and this was when Clinton was in office) Those weapons? </font color>

and the lie that the president was flying around the country in Air Force One after the 9/11 attacks because of a supposed threat to attack Air Force One, for example.

<font color="blue">How arrogant is this quote? There was some general confusion that morning, if you recall. What did you want him to do? Fly straight to Washington so somebody could take out Air Force One? </font color>

There was the lie that he'd fund Americorps. There was the lie that he would be the Education President.

<font color="blue">blather </font color>

That's when he denied, in response to a reporter's question, that the White House had been responsible for a big red, white and blue banner saying "Mission Accomplished," placed prominently across the front of the superstructure of the carrier Abraham Lincoln on the occasion of Bush's staged jet landing on the ship on May 1. It wasn't the White House advance team that planned that backdrop, Bush told reporters and the viewing public with a straight face. It was those Navy lads on the ship. And by the way, that phrase didn't refer to the War in Iraq, he continued. It referred to the ship's mission. which was indeed over.

<font color="blue">This is a story? This is the worst the Left (read:media)can come up with? I laugh with disdain. Ha Ha </font color>

This incident could prove to be Bush's undoing.

<font color="blue">LOL. Yeah right. The entire country is talking about it. Oh wait, I meant to say all the Dems in the media are talking about it. Real people don't give a hoot about something so stupid. I laugh again. Ha </font color>



Just about says it all.
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Q

<font color="red">It doesn't even come close to saying it "all". It's the opinion of one Bush-hater. Who is this guy anyway? </font color>
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Wally_in_Cincy
11-04-2003, 08:50 AM
<blockquote><font class="small">Quote Wally_in_Cincy:</font><hr>

Who is this guy anyway?
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more Lindorff:

"Bush simply is not the orator that Hitler was." More importantly, I didn't equate Bush with Hitler because there are some other big differences between the two.
So far, for example, while he has rounded up some Arab and Muslim men purely because of their ethnicity or religion, <font color="red">Bush has not started gassing them--at least not yet. </font color> What I did say, however (and I think subsequent events have proven me even more correct than did the events that had occurred prior to Feb..1), is that some of the tactics of the Bush administration resemble those of Hitler and his Brownshirts. I would go further and add that Bush's attorney general, John Ashcroft, a man who has pointedly praised the old Confederacy, would probably feel quite comfortable in brown with a hakenkreuz tacked to his sleeve"......


<font color="blue">Plus he's a supporter of cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal? My God Q, you better find some different sources. This guy is a wacko.</font color>


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eg8r
11-04-2003, 09:08 AM
Q does not look to see if he is copying anything from a credible source. He is merely looking for someone else that aligns themselves with the same agenda Q has...Bush haters. /ccboard/images/graemlins/smile.gif Once he finds this person, Q quotes it here, and then says "That says it all". LOL, it is a joke.

eg8r

Qtec
11-04-2003, 09:24 AM
Wally,never mind Clinton. Going on the facts, the consensus from intelligence agencies around the world was that Saddam was no immediate threat. Certainly no threat to the USA. This is not about WMD, because there arent any.

If GW wants to fly around the country fine,just dont lie about the reasons for it.
Same goes for the 'mission accomplished'episode.
Why lie about it.
Usually a President has the wit to talk his way out of difficult or awkward questions. GW is so dumb the only thing he can think of is to lie. Its a definite trend by this admin to use the truth sparingly.

Ilike this,



"If he'd gone to law school instead of business school, Bush might have said it all depends upon what your definition of "mission" is. As it is, though, he's stuck looking very much like the little boy with cookie crumbs on his lips who denies that he broke the cookie jar."

This reflects the way you and eg8r think [ and all Rep syncophants]

"Americans are a cynical lot when it comes to politics. We know that the political class is basically a bunch of thieves and extortionists, but we expect their crimes and deceits to be of epic proportions. If a presidential candidate takes a million dollars from the pharmaceutical industry and then has the FDA grant extended patents to them, or takes millions from Boeing and then grants the aircraft maker a six-billion-dollar sweetheart lease on planes for the Pentagon it could have bought outright for much less, nobody gets worked up. That's the way Washington works, we figure."


Do you think the US is qualified to teach Democracy?

Q

Although I agree with the sentiments of my post, its all true] ,I never said I agree with everything he says!

Qtec
11-04-2003, 09:53 AM
Azziz (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,102067,00.html)