Sure, softer tips flatten sooner. I don't go to the extreme with the LePro. I always select a harder LePro out of the box. My point is that I've bought and used $10-$20 Moori tips for years and the LePro ended up being a tip I shoulda stayed with @ 50 cents a tip.
My phylosophy concerning tip maintenence is this. Your stroke "conditions the tip" to your partucular stroke, naturally over time. When you continually shape and mess with a tip, that's your tip-man's best dream. If a tip ain't mushroomed...just play with it. sid
I also prefer a single layer tip but use triangle tips.
I agree with Vlad. Triangles are about the best general-purpose tip on the market. They are hard enough to last, yet they hold chalk well (possibly because the leather fibers are fairly coarse, which fights glazing). Whenever I'm retipping a cue and the owner is not sure what he wants, I steer him to a triangle because most people can play well with it.
Le Pros also play well, but over the years I have observed that they have a tendency to "chunk out" when they are played down to about 1/3 of their original thickness. I've never had a triangle do this.
I suspekt that layered pigskin (kan u get single layer pigskin tips???) kan be better than buffalo-skin (single or multi-layer)(or cowhide, whatever).
Koz i reckon that pigskin iz stronger or something.
Koz i reckon that missedcues are sometimes due to shear failure of the leather (rather than the uzual failure of the chalk) -- and pigskin might be tougher here.
As you already know...the last Triangle I installed for Tommy chunked out. He never asked for another install, and he knew that another install would be the same price...free.
Originally Posted by SpiderMan
It's just my personal experience and opinion, but my return to LePro tips after all these years was right for me. Now tell me,,,what do I do with all of the inventory in various tips I have :-( This install on my Woody seems like it will never ever wear out.
I am the same way as you though in installs for people who don't know what they want. Triangle have a long running track record. I always ask them though, what tip came on the cue? My "old wood" McDermotts and the Woody came with LePros. I went to the hype and bought $20 Mooris and about every other layered tip over all these years.
I love my LePro but did have a fetish for Moori tips for a long time. I just might get you to do an install a Moori Medium for me on my 2nd Woodsworth shaft, which means cutting off a perfectly good Moori Hard tip. I'm always experimenting. You do good work and the Moori medium intrigues me.
Im glad to see that Im not the only one who like Triangle. Ive had the Moori's and Snipers. There was just less glazing and that really means a lot.
Sid & SpiderMan. What memories. Since I played you guys, 1 abdominal aorta aneurysm, 3 heart ablations ( neither worked), now a pacemaker with a dead heart. 100% battery powered.
I still use snipers because Deeman said they were good and he is bigger than both of you guys put together. And, as much as I play, one tip will last 2-3 years. Shoot well guys.
You've had it rough! I'll be like the Blues Mobile myself...I'll fall apart all at once.
Originally Posted by PoolFool
That change I did back to the Lepro is still great. That tip is a good 80% in original height today after all this time. I might pic it once a month, but never shape it. It plays just as well as any tip I've used, be it a Moori or any other highend tip. I've tries most all.
Good to hear from ya Carl! sid
I have always put LePro tips on my cues, when I did them myself--I cannot even recall if that's what I asked for, the one time in several years that I ever had one done by the local guy.
I originally went with medium hardness, but now prefer medium-hard. I have less issues with mushrooming, but I also quit breaking with my playing cue as well--because of the constant mushrooming. So, I don't know how much I gained between the two variables, but I know that it's been probably most of a decade since I had a tip replaced on my main playing cue. And, until about 6 months ago, I played APA double-jeopardy on Wednesdays, both APA 8 and TAP 8 on Thursdays (usually, playing both every night), *and* I tend to hit about like my tip selection--a little on the harder side.
Honestly, however, you could hand me a different cue for every shot, and it wouldn't really bother me!
(Lastly, I know this is another old thread, but I'm trying to liven it up here a bit.)
Some of my snooker & billiards mates down here are now uzing Talisman & Kamui layered tips (pigskin i think).
But layered tips often fail (delaminate i think) in the small 9.5mm & 10mm sizes, even with our small (2-1/16") balls.
I uze Elkmasters (10mm), & i reckon that if i played pool (12mm) i would still uze Elkmasters.
However Blue Diamonds & Brunswicks are virtually identikal.
I dont know why players worry much about how long a qtip lasts, pro golfers change their ball about 4 times in 18 holes (i think).