Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 17

Thread: Charging a Pro Player for Practice Time?

  1. #1
    Guest

    Charging a Pro Player for Practice Time?

    Does anyone else here think it's a little cheap for a nice poolroom to be charging a highly ranked pro tour player for their afternoon practice time - when there are plenty of empty tables in the house? This player has way too much class to ever take for granted that they should be comped or to even mention it to the management, but will simply choose not to return to this establishment in the future simply out of principle. Yes, they do know very well who this player is. It's stuff like this that really gives us room owners a bad name - that a fellow room owner would even consider doing this.

    As a room owner, I always consider it an honor for any pro player to frequent our room to play or practice - and these players are always treated very special here. I can't possibly fathom why ANY room owner would be so ignorant and blind as to not see the many benefits this would have for their room and their business to have a top player in practicing occasionally or regularly - not to mention being a simple a sign of respect and appreciation.

    As a room owner, I can't tell you how much this irritates me to hear of this! In fact I called the owner/manager myself (as one proprietor to another) to offer my opinion and advice as to how lucky they are that this player would think enough of their room to want to frequent it, and how they should proceed in the future if they have any semblance of sense. Any thoughts? - Chris in NC

  2. #2
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Location
    San Jose, CA
    Posts
    1,596

    Re: Charging a Pro Player for Practice Time?

    When I managed a 34 table room, I would not charge a Pro player for time during the day unless he/she was playing for money. Night or busy is another discussion.

    What irritated me the most was when the Pro would arrogantly say something like "I'm Joe Bigshot and I don't pay time, right ???" without even giving the house the opportunity of comp'ing the time.

    Troy

  3. #3
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Posts
    482

    Re: Charging a Pro Player for Practice Time?

    I don't think they should pay practice time. There is another side to the coin though. When a pro player plays in your room, they can shut the place down. People stop to watch them play. I used to go in a room that had a lot of big action. The owner finally asked the players to restrict their play to after midnight. This was a 24 hour place. Before the rule. When two players matched up, every table would go off time to watch. This was a 21 table room. They were costing the owner thousands.

  4. #4
    Guest

    Re: Charging a Pro Player for Practice Time?

    the pro should pay, smile and never go back there.

    dan...they loose.

  5. #5
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Location
    Ellicott City, Md.
    Posts
    5,918

    Re: Charging a Pro Player for Practice Time?

    Chris, I can see the benefits of having pro players come to your room for practice. I have also personally seen a room shut down as Q-guy mentioned. The decision to comp the time has to be the decision of every individual room owner/manager. A lot would depend on the time of day and how busy the room is at that time. I don't think it is your place to tell another owner/manager how to run his/her business. There may be other factors involved that you have no knowledge of. If the pro decides not to return to a room that does not comp his practice time, that is his/her decision. A player should expect to pay until told differently. A player that walks in and says he is Joe Pro, and he doesn't pay table time, should be charged the full rate. I don't think any room needs the business of an ego like that. JMHO. Rich R.

  6. #6
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Location
    New York
    Posts
    3,542

    Re: Charging a Pro Player for Practice Time?

    I think the extension of courtesy relies on the frequency the player plays at the pool hall (if its his home room)and up to the individual owner!If its once in a blue moon, then business is business!

  7. #7
    Guest

    Re: Charging a Pro Player for Practice Time?

    Rich, as I stated in my post it was in the afternoon when there were plenty of tables open. This player never complained to the owner/manager about the fact that they were charged - they paid without question. I happened to find out about it only because we were talking about where this person had been going to practice. Also, the player was not gambling or even playing with someone else - just practicing alone. To clarify, my phone call was not to tell the owner what to do, but simply to offer my advice (for the owner's benefit as much as for the player's benefit) on how I thought he should handle it - unless he wanted to lose the obvious benefits and prestige of this player practicing at his room at a time that would in no way affect his normal business. - Chris in NC

  8. #8
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Location
    DFWTX
    Posts
    3,873

    Re: Charging a Pro Player for Practice Time?

    Chris,

    I think it's great that you would offer your insight to another owner. I'm curious, though, how did the other owner respond? Did they appreciate the input, resent it, or just not care?

    BTW - what's keeping you from registering here?

    SPetty

  9. #9
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Location
    Ellicott City, Md.
    Posts
    5,918

    Re: Charging a Pro Player for Practice Time?

    Chris, in my response, I guess I was trying to cover more bases than were on the field. To be specific to the situation, a pro player, practicing by him/herself in the afternoon when the PH was not busy, I certainly agree that I, if in the position, would comp the time. Having a pro player become a regular in a PH, in the afternoon, could really help bring customers in during non-peak hours. I still have to stand by my opinion, that it is still the decision of the PH owner/manager. Your advise may or may not have been welcome. I have no way of knowing. With your advise, he may make a different decision the next time. But it is still his decision to make. JMHO. He may not feel as compelled to cater to pros as others. I personally have seen some pros that I would go out of my way to keep out of a pool room. I'm sure this wasn't the case in this situation. I guess I just want to say it is a matter of "different strokes for different folks." Rich R.

  10. #10
    Guest

    Re: Charging a Pro Player for Practice Time?

    Chris I totally agree especially if they are not working on their break shot or bleeding my customers of their 20 dollars each day. Having been in this situation many times I find there will always be someone that wants to hit em around with you, learn and maybe pay table time when they might not of played in the first place because no one was there. BF

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •