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    Smile Obama's America Will Become Detroit

    The liberal utopia.


    http://cnsnews.com/blog/terence-p-je...become-detroit
    President Barack Obama travelled to Michigan this week and made his case for class war in defense of the welfare state.

    We need to take more money from the rich, he said, or schools will not be able to afford books, students will not be able to afford college, and disabled children will not get health care.

    "Our economic success has never come from the top down," said Obama. "It comes from the middle out. It comes from the bottom up."

    Obama spoke these words a few miles from Detroit the reductio ad absurdum of his argument.

    If America continues down the road to Obama's America a road that began when President Franklin Roosevelt started building a welfare state here our entire nation will become Detroit.

    Obama's economic and moral vision has played out in that city. What he seeks has been achieved there.

    Last week, as reported by the Detroit Free Press, Michigan's state treasurer told Detroit's mayor and city council that the state may soon appoint an emergency financial manager for the city. Under Michigan law, the paper said, only such a manager can initiate the steps leading to a bankruptcy filing for the city.

    By current calculations, Detroit faces obligations over the next six months that exceed its revenues by $47 million. The city, the Free Press reported, now pays $1.08 in benefits to municipal workers and retirees for every $1.00 it pays in salary.

    What happened to Detroit? It is achieving socialism in one city.

    Traditional two-parent families and the productive taxpaying citizens they produce have fled. In 1950, according the U.S. Census Bureau, Detroit had 1,849,568 people and was the fifth-largest city in the nation. By 2000, its population had dropped to 951,270; by 2010, to 713,777; and by 2011, to 706,585.

    What has happened to the people who remain? The Census Bureau estimates there are 563,055 people age 16 or older in the city who could potentially work and be part of the labor force. But only 54.3 percent of these or 305,479 individuals actually do participate in the labor force, meaning they either have a job or are looking for one.
    Another 257,576 of Detroit residents age 16 or older 45.7 percent of that demographic do not participate in the labor force. They do not have a job, and they are not looking for one.

    In fact, these 257,576 people in Detroit who do not have a job and are not looking for one outnumber the 224,846 residents who do have jobs. But of the 224,846 residents who do have jobs, 34,500 or 15.3 percent have jobs with the government. Thus, this city that boasted 1,849,568 residents in 1950 has only 190,346 private-sector workers today.

    There are 264,209 households in Detroit, and 91,204 of them or 34.5 percent get food stamps.

    Very few of the people who are staying out of the labor force in Detroit are staying out because they are stay-at-home moms with working husbands. Of the 264,209 households in Detroit, only 24,275 or 9.2 percent are married couple families with children under 18. Another 78,438 households or 29.7 percent of the total are "families" headed by women with no husband present. Of these, 43,742 have children under 18.

    There were 12,103 babies born in Detroit in the 12 months prior to the Census Bureau survey, and 9,124 of them or 75.4 percent were born to unmarried women.

    Of the 363,281 housing units in Detroit, 99,072 are vacant. Indeed, vacant houses have become a powerful visual symbol of what advancing socialism has done to the city. Traditional family life is nearing extinction in this once vibrant corner of America.

    Obama said in Michigan that if the federal government does not take more money away from people who have earned it, the public schools may not be able to buy school books. But the Department of Education says that in the Detroit public schools which have books only 7 percent of the eight graders are grade-level proficient in reading and only 4 percent are grade-level proficient in math.

    School books are not lacking here. Self-reliance, the spirit of individualism, and the Judeo-Christian values that support marriage and family are. They have been driven out by a government that wants the people to depend on it rather than on themselves, their families and their faith.



    There isn't anything wrong with America that liberal ideology, properly applied by government experts, can't make worse.

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    Utter crap across the board, of course.

    Not that some or most of these allegations are untrue. They may very well be accurate statements of the facts.

    What it doesn't show at all is that this is any result of Obama's, or that his policies will make this happen across the country. This is a one-off (basket) case, and unique, and set in stone well before Obama's terms in office.

    The better metric would be to compare red states with blue states, as a rough guide to GOP vs. Democratic party policies. There is no or few measures upon which to judge the red states as better off than the blue states-- not education level, not health level, not longevity of life levels, not income levels, not as to poverty, OR out-of-wedlock birth rates, or divorce rates, or alcoholism/substance abuse problems, incarceration or crime rates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soflasnapper View Post
    This is a one-off (basket) case, and unique ...
    Seriously?

    Even I don't believe that you actually believe that ... and I believe that you believe some positively insane shiite.

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    There are other blighted areas, assuredly, from the national policy of deindustrialization began 30 years ago under Reagan's policies. Few to this extent, but it's not called the Rust Belt for nothing.

    So you are blaming social welfare provision for the deliberate effects of policies well known and predicted at the time to have these exact effects.

    What happened to Detroit? Besides white flight to Canton Township, Clinton Township, Dearborn, Farmington Hills, Livonia, Sterling Heights, Troy, Warren, Westland and somewhat less to
    Bloomfield Township, Dearborn Heights, Grosse Pointe, Macomb Township, Novi, Pontiac, Redford Township, Rochester Hills, Royal Oak, Saint Clair Shores, Shelby Township and West Bloomfield Township.

    In the 2000s, 115 of the 185 cities and townships in Metro Detroit were over 95% white.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soflasnapper View Post
    There are other blighted areas, assuredly, from the national policy of deindustrialization began 30 years ago under Reagan's policies. Few to this extent, but it's not called the Rust Belt for nothing.

    So you are blaming social welfare provision for the deliberate effects of policies well known and predicted at the time to have these exact effects.

    What happened to Detroit? Besides white flight to Canton Township, Clinton Township, Dearborn, Farmington Hills, Livonia, Sterling Heights, Troy, Warren, Westland and somewhat less to
    Bloomfield Township, Dearborn Heights, Grosse Pointe, Macomb Township, Novi, Pontiac, Redford Township, Rochester Hills, Royal Oak, Saint Clair Shores, Shelby Township and West Bloomfield Township.

    In the 2000s, 115 of the 185 cities and townships in Metro Detroit were over 95% white.
    Detroit began it's collapse under LBJ and Jerome Cavanaugh.

    In 1960 Detroit had the highest average living standard of any major city on Oit.

    It had a republican mayor for 70 pf the previous 90 years.

    Since it has had 50 consecutive years of demokrook leadership, lost well over half it's population, and went from the pinnacle of what a modern city could be to a dunghole.

    Hy was their a flight of the midde classand weathy? High taxes ... an anti business environment ... insanely high crime rates ... rapacious public employees ... or, IOW, they had brains.

    It is totally intellectually dishonest ... and you know this ... to blame Reagan for the abomination inflicted upon Detroit.

    While we are at it ... look at the most fornicated locales in America other than Detroit. Washington DC, Los Angeles, Chicago, Camden, the states of California and Illinois ... and they all have in common long tern demokrook regimes.

    These debacles belong to the demokrooks, and no amount of deflect/defend/deny on the part of the left will change this.

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    It's intellectually dishonest to blame Reagan for Detroit, you say?

    I blame him for the crack epidemic, and thus he is responsible for devastating all the inner city populations and an entire lost generation of young black men. Once they got that felony strike against them, whatever chances they had previously (slim) went to none, in this society.

    What did he have to do with the crack epidemic? First, DCI William Casey negotiated a change in policy with AG William French Smith, that the CIA no longer had to turn over evidence they ran across of international drug smuggling to the DOJ. Then, a protected importation ring was set up with the Somacistas Meneses and Blandon providing half-the-market-price and very pure cocaine that their agent and co-conspirator Ricky Freeway Barnes distributed at the street level through the Crips and the Bloods. All three were eventually convicted in federal court, with Meneses and Blandon receiving drug kingpin lengthy sentences, only to be freed and put back on the CIA payroll within less than 18 months.
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