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    Why did the regime push to raise taxes on the middle class?

    Tax increases for 77% of Americans ... all at ince now Obots, explain how you were always in favor of middle lass tax hikes.

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    Since this is clearly not true as to federal income tax rates, to what then do you refer?

    The ending of the FICA payroll tax break of 2%? It's not an increase, but the ending of the time-limited temporary cuts, as scheduled. Frankly, except for Obama's strong insistence before, these would already have expired 2 years ago, from the GOP's opposition to them and their extension O won at that time. Putting it another way, the American people have been paying 6.2% FICA payroll tax FOREVER (well, at least since the Reagan/Greenspan Commission deal in the mid-'80s raised them there from 4.2%). What will they be paying now, after your alleged tax hike? 6.2%.
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    I was betting Snoopy would be the first to argue that paying more ax wasn't a tax increase.

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    So you were wrong, AGAIN!???!?! (Gosh, hard to believe!)

    It's semantics, again. Nobody raised that tax. Someone LOWERED it, temporarily, and the temporary nature of that lowering was known in the original bill lowering it. That temporary lowering ended, although it was first extended for another temporary period. So you're saying that anyone providing a temporary tax break is also raising taxes, although the taxes never are raised from the status quo ante, even after they are 'raised'?

    Well, why not claim that. After all, a similar (bad) argument worked great to gain the recall of the California governor Gray Davis.
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    Till mystified by English?

    Here's how it works when I'm right, that isn't evidence of being wrong.

    It is astounding how the cabal insists that canceling a tax cut isn't raising taxes ... but not canceling a tax cut is an additional tax cut.
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    Nobody thought you could parse any language with the slightest ambiguity. You've disabused us of any idea that is so, repeatedly.

    Not that it's the weakest part of your claim. That would be this part:
    Why did the regime push to raise taxes on the middle class?


    No evidence for that part at all, amiright? Before we get to the poor understanding you display about the meanings of words, let's deal first with this misstatement of the facts.

    While we wait for your explanation of that claim, here's a comparable situation in the business world. When my company leases new space, we negotiate the base rent. Often, rent is waived for 3 months or more as compensation for our expense of build out. So, we go from paying $0 rent to paying full rent, after the waived period. Question: did our rent go up? Because we had to begin to pay what we'd negotiated as our exact rent?

    You could say that, but it would lead to the odd claim that despite having a lease contract, somehow the landlord slipped us a rent increase. That isn't what happened, of course-- we were paying the same rate all along, AND there was an offsetting credit allowed. The rent didn't go up-- the credit went away.

    You use a low grade equivocation technique to propound these false analyses. Always have. It's your key go-to move.
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    "I do believe that a full return to the Clinton-era tax rates is probably necessary, if we are to have a chance to re-right the fiscal ship under something like normal order."
    The important thing iz full employment. Something that the usofa haznt had for a long time.
    RE-RIGHT THE FISCAL SHIP -- iz a sort of lie.
    NORMAL ORDER -- iz a sort of truth.
    DISTORTING .... CORRECT ECONOMIC POLICIES -- read distorting krappynomix.
    Even Krugman, the best krappynomicyst in the usofa, shows that despite all of hiz good stuff he iz a bit of a twirp.
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