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    Has the regime been lying ... again ... to the American people?

    "A new Foreign Military Intelligence (GRU) report circulating in the Kremlin today is saying that United States Secretary of State Hillary Clinton [photo 2nd right] was injured, and a top US Navy Seal Commander killed when their C-12 Huron military passenger and transport aircraft crash landed nearly 3 weeks ago in the Iranian city of Ahvaz near the Iraqi border.

    Iranian intelligence agents quoted in this GRU report confirm that the C-12 Huron aircraft is still in their possession in Ahvaz, but will only admit that the plane was “forced to land because of technical problems”.
    The US Navy Seal member reported killed in this bizarre incident, this report says, was indentified as Commander Job W. Price [photo 3rd right] who as a leader of this highly specialized American Special Forces unit protects high-ranking diplomats traveling in Middle Eastern and Asian combat zones.

    Curiously, US media reports on Commander Price’s death say it being investigated as a possible suicide as he died from what the American Defense Department describes as “a non-combat related injury”.

    Equally as curious, US media reports state that Secretary Clinton will return to work next week after her having suffered what they describe as a “nasty bout with stomach flu” and a “concussion” which have kept her missing from public view the past three weeks.

    This GRU report, however, states that US military flight logs recorded by Russian air and space forces confirm that Commander Price, and other members of US Navy Seal Team 4, left their base in Urozgan Province, Afghanistan on a flight to US Naval Support Activity Bahrain where they met up with Secretary Clinton and all of them transferred to the C-12 Huron that began a flight path to Baghdad, Iraq.

    Within minutes of leaving Bahrain airspace, this report says, the C-12 Huron carrying Secretary Clinton and her US Navy Seal protectors, “without notice,” deviated from their assigned flight path heading, instead, directly towards Iran’s Ahwaz International Airport where, coincidentally, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad had previously landed on an “unscheduled” visit.

    Important to note, GRU analysts say in this report, was that when the C-12 Huron entered into Iranian airspace neither American nor Iran air force units responded clearly indicating that this secret mission was sanctioned.
    Upon the C-12 Huron landing at Ahwaz, however, this report says it encountered “extreme turbulence” causing it to leave the runway where its main landing gear then collapsed causing it to crash.

    Within seconds of the C-12 Huron crashing, this report continues, Iranian emergency and security personal responded freeing the victims, including Secretary Clinton who was reportedly unconscious and “bleeding profusely.”

    After emergency aid was given, GRU agents stationed in Iran state that another US military flight was dispatched from Bahrain to Ahwaz which evacuated all of those wounded and killed in the crash including Secretary Clinton.

    Strangely to note, this report says, is that in the aftermath of this crash, Iran’s main oil company announced today that they were buying the Ahwaz airport with the intention of moving it because, they say, oil was discovered beneath it.
    To what the Americans mission to Iran was about this report doesn’t speculate upon, other than to note that with the Gulf State Monarchies rapidly approaching a union of their oil rich nations to counter Iranian power, and with President Obama signing a new law this past week to strengthen American borders against threats from Iran, and with the highly-publicized “Velayat 91” Iranian military exercises now taking place across a wide area from the Strait of Hormuz, a new and catastrophic war in this region is much closer to being a reality than many realize.

    To if Secretary Clinton’s mission was meant to forestall such a war it is not in our knowing, other than to note, that with the United States continued backing of some of the cruelest dictatorships in the world, our entire planet is but one spark away from a fire that could very well consume us all."

    http://www.eutimes.net/2012/12/clint...ssion-to-iran/

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    Also from the EUtimes.

    Shocking report.

    Israel fell into a carefully laid trap today by refusing to allow inspections of its weapons of mass destruction facilities. This has opened the door for the only possible response. It is sanction time for the Israelis. Let them reap what they have sown. And let us do what we must do.

    If the shoe were on the other foot, the Zios would be screaming to have the facilities bombed, but we won’t do that. The WMD contamination would be a disaster. Even conventional weapons landing just on their nuclear waste sites would create a catastrophe for anyone down wind. It’s the cheap way of making a conventional warhead go nuclear, using the target’s own waste material.

    Netanyahu played his role as expected. Straight out of the Talmud, his coalition does not accept demands from the non-Jewish sub-humans. He will bet the farm on the Jewish Lobbies in the main Western countries, that they can bully their host country legislatures to do their bidding. They have a long track record.

    In America this is a bipartisan campaign. The Senate Democrats and Republicans passed the new Iran sanctions bill, drafted by Israeli intelligence operatives as usual.
    Ha. Israel insists on inspections in other countries but not in Israel!!!


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    What relevance does this have to the thread's topic?

    What's that?

    To deflect/defend/deny in order to prove your blind obedience to the regime?

    But ... we already knew that.

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    A small U.S. commercial plane has been stuck in Iran for nearly three weeks after making an emergency landing near the city of Ahvaz, the country's airports director said on Sunday.

    The plane was forced to land because of technical problems, Mahmoud Rasoulinejad said, quoted by the Mehr news agency.

    "After landing, the crew travelled on to countries around the Persian Gulf and the plane is currently being repaired," he said.


    Are you serious?

    Why doesn't this report say someone died?

    Get real.

    This is not Fox news.

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    The report does say someone died ... didn't we just discuss the benefits of you reading things?

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    A new Foreign Military Intelligence (GRU) report circulating in the Kremlin today
    I guess if the KREMLIN says its true then it MUST be true!

    Right?

    Commie Lover!

    Q...why didn't you tell us from the start that your hero is Putin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qtec View Post
    I guess if the KREMLIN says its true then it MUST be true!

    Right?

    Commie Lover!

    Q...why didn't you tell us from the start that your hero is Putin?
    I have no idea if it's true, or not ... but, unlike you, I don't lick the spoon clean of the regime's story either.

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    There's plenty of misinformation and disinformation out there. The alleged Sorcha Faal often cites alleged GRU cables, which are basically inherently uncheckable by any normal person-- that they exist at all, that they say what is alleged to have been said, or that even if it does say that, whether it is Russian propaganda, created for a desired political effect.

    I read this a day or two earlier, probably at the dreaded Rense.com site, or Mike Rivero's WhatReallyHappened.com site (accumulators of oddities and outlier stories, you know, kinda like RumorMillsNews.com?).

    I don't think it's smart to put too much credence into any of the stories appearing at any of the places, but still to monitor what is being said out on the periphery beyond totally controlled discourse. But just because it's outside the NORMAL controlled discourse doesn't mean it isn't being controlled in an irregular way, possibly by the same controllers of regular media, in fact.

    Taking it all at face value, however, it would seem to indicate a secret diplomatic mission to forestall war with Iran. Secret diplomatic missions tend to get covered up with cover stories, and especially so if things go awry. We still don't know much about the apparent secret diplomatic mission of Rudolf Hess to England, and by the insistence of the USSR, we likely never will, as the man was kept in prison for the rest of his life so he couldn't talk about what he did.
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    So the various hypotheses are only correct, IYHO, when they blame Bush?

    But ... I already knew that
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    There are plenty of things said about Bush that I do not particularly credence. That he was really what Skorzeny claimed:
    In short, Otto Skorzeny claimed that the true identity of George H.W. Bush was “George H. Scherff, Jr., the son of Nikola Tesla’s illegal-immigrant, German-born accountant, George H. Scherff, Sr.”
    Or that he is a shape-changing reptilian alien or trans-dimensional demon.

    Yet I find it of interest to read many things that I do not necessarily believe. I would be most interested in reading real GRU internal reports and memos, and I would think those worthy of some belief.
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