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    The FBI Lame Excuses

    I think it is pathetic that the FBI says they couldn't pursue the bomber after Russia told us about him because they couldn't find he broke any laws. Think about it. This guy went to bomb making sites and studied how to make bombs. Would any of us go there to even browse around? Hell no, we'd all expect to get on an FBI or Homeland Security list immediately. Here is this guy, already flagged and on a list, and he still freely surfed frequently in how to make bombs without any notice. The Feds can catch someone's niece downloading an MP3 and charge her, but here they don't catch what a terrorist did? Heads need to roll. sid
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    Unless there is some sort of proof that a federal law has already been broken, the Feds cannot just arbitrarily investigate people over what internet sites they have visited, when they are here legally, as far as I know.

    He was here legally, on a green card. Had no record of any Federal offence The Feds had investigated him for months, and couldn't find a legal cause to go any further, as far as I can tell.

    "The Feds can catch someone's niece downloading an MP3 and charge her, but here they don't catch what a terrorist did?

    I never heard anything about this case????? Had there been a Federal Law broken which gave them leeway to investigate further????

    Any information will be appreciated. Also, If I am wrong about the law, don't hesitate to explain to me what I'm missing.

    Thanks, hope all is well, Martin.



    I'm more likely to blame Russia, because they didn't give us all of the information they should have given us when we were asking them for it.

    Also, I think that the Mosque should have alerted authorities when they saw signs of radicalization.

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    Then why is it that some of us shudder in our boots about even visiting gun sites at all, perfectly legal, and yet the simple nieces get busted for a MP3 download? This guy was on a list of some government agency and he frequented terrorists site, including how to make bombs. You surely aint this naive Gayle. Sorry that I missed getting my message across the first time. I still think that it sucks that the agencies wouldn't have further red flagged and hounded this guy. I think I'll go explore bomb making sites...you gonna bail me out? martin

    Quote Originally Posted by Gayle in MD View Post
    Unless there is some sort of proof that a federal law has already been broken, the Feds cannot just arbitrarily investigate people over what internet sites they have visited, when they are here legally, as far as I know.

    He was here legally, on a green card. Had no record of any Federal offence The Feds had investigated him for months, and couldn't find a legal cause to go any further, as far as I can tell.

    "The Feds can catch someone's niece downloading an MP3 and charge her, but here they don't catch what a terrorist did?

    I never heard anything about this case????? Had there been a Federal Law broken which gave them leeway to investigate further????

    Any information will be appreciated. Also, If I am wrong about the law, don't hesitate to explain to me what I'm missing.

    Thanks, hope all is well, Martin.



    I'm more likely to blame Russia, because they didn't give us all of the information they should have given us when we were asking them for it.

    Also, I think that the Mosque should have alerted authorities when they saw signs of radicalization.
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    Then why is it that some of us shudder in our boots about even visiting gun sites at all, perfectly legal, and yet the simple nieces get busted for a MP3 download? This guy was on a list of some government agency and he frequented terrorists site, including how to make bombs. You surely aint this naive Gayle. Sorry that I missed getting my message across the first time. I still think that it sucks that the agencies wouldn't have further red flagged and hounded this guy. I think I'll go explore bomb making sites...you gonna bail me out? martin
    I'm trying to understand you. What is this story(?)"yet the simple nieces get busted for a MP3 download? " about? I have not heard anything abou it anywhere on line, or on the news, so Idon't know what you're talking about.

    Also, as I said, there are limits to what Federal agsents can legally do. He was on a no fly list, and slipped through because of a simple typo, I believe, from the DMV.

    I am just saying that I think the FBI has done a great job in Boston, and they have saved many lives by getting these guys so quickly, thanks to the contributions of a our civilains who were instumental in getting these two killers.

    I don't think it's possible for our security people to be right on top of every single potential terrorist in the world, or in this country, every minute of the day.

    This guy appears to have been failrly recently self-radicalized. He was closely investigated, for six months, I believe I read. I haven't read anything myself, which indicates that there was anything further the FBI could have done, under the rule of law. I believe they have to have some pretty solid proof of an intention to attack, in order to spy further on someone who is here legally, and he was.

    If I am wrong about the Federal Law regarding spying on people while they are using the internet, then let me know.

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    This example I gave is old news but real. here's a C&P about a similar incident, but it isn't for anything except to exhibit that the feds worry more about kids and downloads than they do possible terrorists. If they did focus on real threats, then Boston would not have happened. I can easily find way more examples of these idiotic examples, but the niece story was a couple years back. That's a drop in the bucket compared to the feds making excuses for quitting the investigation on this Russian connection, REDUCULIOUS!

    You just gotta try and understand the basic jest of the insanity here, especially when it comes to terrorism suspects. martin



    "42-year-old single mother Tanya Anderson was informed by the RIAA in 2004 that she could either settle out of court or face legal action for her early morning piracy antics. She learned that she had apparently been downloading the rap song “Shake that Ass, Bitch” at 4:24 in the morning under the username “gotenkito.” This was news to her, and she promptly counter-sued the RIAA under state Racketeering laws. At the time, she worked for the Department of Justice, but was forced to leave for health reasons shortly after her legal woes began. She was severely disabled, and with the loss of her job added to the already soaring legal fees she was in for hard times. To put a nice cap on it all, the RIAA not only called her 10-year-old daughter’s school impersonating the girl’s grandmother in an attempt to get information from her, but they also threatened to “interrogate and confront her little girl at the offices of the RIAA lawyers” if Ms. Anderson did not drop her counter-claim, which she disclosed in her deposition against them."
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    This recent crap of the Obama admin gathering everything in phone and e-mail FROM ALL AMERICANS STATESIDE, adds to my frustrations over the FBI pussying out on not pursuing that terrorist. As much as I detect the REP party, I dearly hope all this internal gathering from stateside, innocent until proven guilty Americans, bites Obama in the ass. sid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sid_Vicious View Post
    This recent crap of the Obama admin gathering everything in phone and e-mail FROM ALL AMERICANS STATESIDE, adds to my frustrations over the FBI pussying out on not pursuing that terrorist. As much as I detect the REP party, I dearly hope all this internal gathering from stateside, innocent until proven guilty Americans, bites Obama in the ass. sid
    Ever hear of Echelon, or Predator? Both have been around for decades. Or how about the Patriot Act?
    There is no stupider creature on earth than a poor Republican. Such a person would stand in line to be sodomized and then thank their assailant afterward.


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    Dont worry about the mosque -- they are indoktrinating little terrorists at the rear az we speak.
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    I don't think that is a fair assumption, Max.

    All Islamists are not radicals, by far.

    Islam as a religion, is no more blood thirsty or irrational and radical than any religion which subscribes to Christian beliefs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gayle in MD View Post
    I don't think that is a fair assumption, Max.

    All Islamists are not radicals, by far.

    Islam as a religion, is no more blood thirsty or irrational and radical than any religion which subscribes to Christian beliefs.
    Yes, those Quakers are such a violent sect...

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