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    I measured the wts and balances of cues using my 4 modyfyd butts (4" mini-butt, 7" mini-butt, 18-13/16" butt-pce, 20" butt-pce) and various non-modyfyd butts.

    (A29a) An untouched 19.50oz 13mm Eliminator -- this had a balance point 18-1/8" from the butt (shaft iz 29" long, cue iz 58" long)(A29a iz a 20oz Eliminator, it haz a very small wt-bolt in the very end of the butt, actual wt iz 19.50oz koz 0.45oz rubber bumper haz been remooved).
    (A29b) An untouched 17.45oz Eliminator -- this had a balance point 2-5/8" closer to the qtip than A29a (shaft iz 29" long, cue iz 58" long)(A29b iz an 18oz Eliminator, it haznt got a wt-bolt, actual wt iz 17.45oz koz 0.45oz rubber bumper haz been remooved).
    (A29-10). I hav thinned some of my 29" shafts down from 13mm to 10mm (and even 9mm) for English Billiards, and the cue at mid-cue (ie at the joint here), iz too thin, too whippy (even for piddly little 2-1/15" balls).


    (B4) One of my 2pce modyfyd Eliminators (wt = 21.25oz) -- this had a balance point 1/4" closer to the qtip than A1.
    [Aktually this iz a 3pce but the third pce iz a mini-butt 4" long, and the shaft-pce that I uze with this haz had 3" cut off it].
    (B7) [And I hav a 2nd mini-butt which iz 7" long which givs me another range of options, which i ignore here].
    (B9) [And I hav a 3rd mini-butt which iz 9" long which givs me another range of options, which i ignore here].


    (C20g) My goanna 3pce (wt = 21.47oz)(goanna butt-pce = 20") -- this had a balance point 1-3/8" closer to the qtip than A29a (when uzing a thin shaft) and 2-1/8" (when uzing a thick shaft).
    (C20b) My bullant 3pce (wt = 21.30oz)(bullant butt-pce = 18-13/16") -- this had a balance point 1-5/8" closer to the qtip than A29a (when uzing a thin shaft) and 2-1/4" (when uzing a thick shaft).

    Hencely my 3pce cues C20g and C20b are not very noze-heavy, even tho their thickness at 1/3rd point (0.850") iz the same
    az the thickness of (A13a) and (A13b) at their 1/2 point. In fakt the balances of my 3pce cues are similar to (A29b).

    But balance and noze-heavyness are two separate things.
    A cue can hav a balance-point nearer the butt than some other cue, and yet be more noze-heavy than that other cue, if it iz heavyer. Koz, noze-heavyness iz a combination of wt and balance. Noze-heavyness iz in effect the wt supported by your bridge. Most of the feel of noze-heavyness iz felt by your bridge.

    But strangely your grip kan allso feel noze-heavyness (I think).
    But praps it karnt. Praps a blind-test would show that your grip iz blind to noze-heavyness. This seems more logical. Yet, the grip knows something. Praps the grip feels the bridge-drag when u feather back and forward. Ok, what if u wore a Teflon bridge-glove to reduce drag, would that fool your grip. I might look into this. In fakt reducing bridge-drag might also fool your bridge.

    I know that in the past I hav played with very noze-heavy cues, and I hadta wear a cloth-Band-Aid on my bridge-thumb to
    stop my thumb from rubbing raw. The Band-Aid woz needed to protect my skin, but at the same time it greatly reduced bridge-drag, and this somehow made the cue feel less noze-heavy. I might try it for my 3pce cues (not that I am in any danger of loozing skin).

    EXPERIMENT THAT ANYONE KAN DO AT HOME.
    Equipment. U need (1) one player, (2) one blindfold (for player), (3) one very noze-heavy cue, and say 9 less nose-heavy cues, (4) a local anaesthetic (for player's bridgehand), (5) a cloth Band-Aid (for player's bridge thumb, to reduce cue-drag).
    Procedure Run 1. Blindfolded player iz handed 10 different cues and player feathers cues and advises if cues feel noze-heavy or a little or not.
    Procedure Run 2. Blindfolded player (with injected bridge-hand) iz handed 10 different cues and player feathers cues and advises if cues feel noze-heavy or a little or not.
    Procedure Run 3. Blindfolded player (with injected bridge-hand) iz handed 10 different cues and player feathers cues and advises if cues feel noze-heavy or a little or not. For the very noze-heavy cue, a cloth Band-Aid iz stuck onto the bridge-thumb (unbeknown to player).
    Procedure Run 4. Blindfolded player (with injected bridge-hand and band-aided bridge thumb) iz handed 10 different cues and player feathers cues and advises if cues feel noze-heavy or a little or not.
    Data. Draw xy graph of true balance and guessed balance (or mightbe an xyz graph).
    Report. Write report, and publish (after peer review).
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    Last edited by cushioncrawler; 12-30-2013 at 11:20 PM.

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