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    How the right destroyed itself: History, ideology and strategic blunders

    MONDAY, JAN 27, 2014 01:45 PM EST

    How the right destroyed itself: History, ideology and strategic blunders


    Republicans can't moderate because their base won't allow it. Even if they could, Democrats already beat them there

    BRIAN BEUTLER
    SALON.COM
    http://www.salon.com/2014/01/27/how_...egic_blunders/




    Both parties have become more ideological over the years, but only one has become culturally extreme and inflexible. One of the consequences is that the country’s policy commitments have become more conservative than they might have been if this polarization had been symmetric. But another is that Republicans have a hard time tacking left without bumping into a niche that’s already been filled.

    New York magazine’s Jonathan Chait argues that the obvious solution to the Republican dilemma is for party elders to borrow from George W. Bush — to stop worrying (or pretending to worry) about deficits and propose financing a few economically populist ideas with higher debt.

    I think that’s true insofar as the solution to anyone’s problems is to transform themselves into someone new and altogether better. I’d be a much more talented writer if I became Vladimir Nabokov, but I’d also be a dead man without much of a foothold in American politics.

    Yes, Republicans embraced deficits in the 2000s, but it was almost entirely in service of two imperatives that happened to coincide: 1) to finance wars, tax cuts for the rich, social spending for old white people, and other Republican-friendly programs, 2) to eventually create an urgent need to crush spending on the poor.

    I have no doubt that if Republicans return to power they will continue to support tax cuts for the rich, financed either with reduced spending on the poor, or higher deficits. But the ultimate purpose of the deficits would be to force reductions in spending on the poor. if Republicans were to suddenly propose financing anti-poverty programs with higher deficits, they wouldn’t just risk allowing Democrats to co-opt their ideas, in a less profligate, more popular manner. They’d be admitting to a strategic defeat that’s been several decades in the making.But the political sorting took about half a century. Only very recently did the most conservative Democrats become reliably more liberal than the most liberal Republicans. And one of the reasons Democrats were able to reorient themselves during the Clinton era is that the Clinton era began more than 20 years ago. Back then it was much easier to imagine a patrician Republican and an Arkansan Democrat winning their respective presidential nominating contests. And it was easier to move the ideological center of either party closer to the absolute center, because plenty of members of both parties already inhabited that part of the spectrum. Today, asking a party to moderate itself means asking nearly all of its members to rethink their worldviews.

    But that’s only one-half of the problem. Ideological rigidity is part of what makes it so hard for Republicans to appeal to voters outside of their core constituencies, but it wouldn’t be all thathard if Democrats had retreated into equally rigid reactionary leftism. Instead, this is what happened.Last week I wrote an article arguing that the impediments to conservative reform are structural — that the idiosyncrasies of the Republican base make appealing to moderate voters a zero-sum game for the party, and thus eliminates the incentive that, for instance, impelled Democrats in the 1980s and 1990s to cater to less-liberal voters.





    The article generated some interesting responses, which is fortunate, because they provide a jumping off point to explore the historical and political context of the GOP’s unique predicament.

    I think it’s fairly evident that Republicans’ increasing reliance on an older, whiter, more conservative constituency has trapped them into a number of non-negotiable policy dogmas. And I think they they bear most of the blame for their own circumstances. It’s an outgrowth of a conscious political strategy. They began taking the country and their party down this road, hoping, as Pat Buchanan famously put it, to “split the country in two and … take the bigger half.” They fused the low-tax, low-regulation agenda of wealthy elites to the worldview of religious conservatives. They birthed the Reagan Revolution, then milked it so vigorously that they’ve become unable to wean themselves from it more than 30 years later.

    But there’s more to the story than one losing bet. And I believe the historical backdrop supports the conclusion that there’s no space in U.S. politics for Republicans to undergo a Democratic Leadership Council-style reform.

    A big part of the story here is that Republicans probably didn’t have much choice but to begin a long trek into an ideological cul-de-sac. Writing at Slate, Matt Yglesias noted that the political sorting the country has undergone over the past few decades was in some ways foreordained by the more organic creation of coherent liberal and conservative ideological intellectual camps in the early-mid-20th century.

    That was the environment in which distinctly liberal and conservative activists began realigning the parties ideologically. Thus, nothing that happened subsequently in Republican politics — from the Southern Strategy to its enduring “47-percent” mind-set — was arbitrary. It was built into both the party’s belief system and the professional incentives Republicans continue to face.




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    Quote Originally Posted by DiabloViejo View Post
    MONDAY, JAN 27, 2014 01:45 PM EST

    How the right destroyed itself: History, ideology and strategic blunders


    Republicans can't moderate because their base won't allow it. Even if they could, Democrats already beat them there

    BRIAN BEUTLER
    SALON.COM
    http://www.salon.com/2014/01/27/how_...egic_blunders/




    Both parties have become more ideological over the years, but only one has become culturally extreme and inflexible. One of the consequences is that the country’s policy commitments have become more conservative than they might have been if this polarization had been symmetric. But another is that Republicans have a hard time tacking left without bumping into a niche that’s already been filled.

    New York magazine’s Jonathan Chait argues that the obvious solution to the Republican dilemma is for party elders to borrow from George W. Bush — to stop worrying (or pretending to worry) about deficits and propose financing a few economically populist ideas with higher debt.

    I think that’s true insofar as the solution to anyone’s problems is to transform themselves into someone new and altogether better. I’d be a much more talented writer if I became Vladimir Nabokov, but I’d also be a dead man without much of a foothold in American politics.

    Yes, Republicans embraced deficits in the 2000s, but it was almost entirely in service of two imperatives that happened to coincide: 1) to finance wars, tax cuts for the rich, social spending for old white people, and other Republican-friendly programs, 2) to eventually create an urgent need to crush spending on the poor.

    I have no doubt that if Republicans return to power they will continue to support tax cuts for the rich, financed either with reduced spending on the poor, or higher deficits. But the ultimate purpose of the deficits would be to force reductions in spending on the poor. if Republicans were to suddenly propose financing anti-poverty programs with higher deficits, they wouldn’t just risk allowing Democrats to co-opt their ideas, in a less profligate, more popular manner. They’d be admitting to a strategic defeat that’s been several decades in the making.But the political sorting took about half a century. Only very recently did the most conservative Democrats become reliably more liberal than the most liberal Republicans. And one of the reasons Democrats were able to reorient themselves during the Clinton era is that the Clinton era began more than 20 years ago. Back then it was much easier to imagine a patrician Republican and an Arkansan Democrat winning their respective presidential nominating contests. And it was easier to move the ideological center of either party closer to the absolute center, because plenty of members of both parties already inhabited that part of the spectrum. Today, asking a party to moderate itself means asking nearly all of its members to rethink their worldviews.

    But that’s only one-half of the problem. Ideological rigidity is part of what makes it so hard for Republicans to appeal to voters outside of their core constituencies, but it wouldn’t be all thathard if Democrats had retreated into equally rigid reactionary leftism. Instead, this is what happened.Last week I wrote an article arguing that the impediments to conservative reform are structural — that the idiosyncrasies of the Republican base make appealing to moderate voters a zero-sum game for the party, and thus eliminates the incentive that, for instance, impelled Democrats in the 1980s and 1990s to cater to less-liberal voters.





    The article generated some interesting responses, which is fortunate, because they provide a jumping off point to explore the historical and political context of the GOP’s unique predicament.

    I think it’s fairly evident that Republicans’ increasing reliance on an older, whiter, more conservative constituency has trapped them into a number of non-negotiable policy dogmas. And I think they they bear most of the blame for their own circumstances. It’s an outgrowth of a conscious political strategy. They began taking the country and their party down this road, hoping, as Pat Buchanan famously put it, to “split the country in two and … take the bigger half.” They fused the low-tax, low-regulation agenda of wealthy elites to the worldview of religious conservatives. They birthed the Reagan Revolution, then milked it so vigorously that they’ve become unable to wean themselves from it more than 30 years later.

    But there’s more to the story than one losing bet. And I believe the historical backdrop supports the conclusion that there’s no space in U.S. politics for Republicans to undergo a Democratic Leadership Council-style reform.

    A big part of the story here is that Republicans probably didn’t have much choice but to begin a long trek into an ideological cul-de-sac. Writing at Slate, Matt Yglesias noted that the political sorting the country has undergone over the past few decades was in some ways foreordained by the more organic creation of coherent liberal and conservative ideological intellectual camps in the early-mid-20th century.

    That was the environment in which distinctly liberal and conservative activists began realigning the parties ideologically. Thus, nothing that happened subsequently in Republican politics — from the Southern Strategy to its enduring “47-percent” mind-set — was arbitrary. It was built into both the party’s belief system and the professional incentives Republicans continue to face.




    Hard to figure out which one is the most deceitful. Three ignorant Grand Standers!

    OMG annd all of them fugly!

    "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gayle in MD View Post
    Hard to figure out which one is the most deceitful. Three ignorant Grand Standers!

    OMG annd all of them fugly!

    "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican."

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    Oh my Hondo!STop with the annoying posts.You have done enough to ruin this forum.You and your crazy lady routine need to leave for good.
    Hondo>03-09-11.Thread 600 "Tangled with charley"
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    Pretenders,Liars,Frauds.

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