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    Angry The War on the Poor and Working Families

    The War on the Poor and Working Families


    Robert Reich connects the dots to show how a range of positions, on issues ranging from the minimum wage to unemployment insurance to food stamps, work together to keep poor and working families in desperate situations.

    http://youtu.be/Npj2U1PdIhI


    Remember folks, for the conservatives it's only class warfare when middle class and poor people fight back.


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    I like RR but he and everyone else iz wrong about lotsa things.
    The main problem re poverty iz high unemployment.
    A minimum adult wage would help, but not az much az one might think.

    The No1 cost iz housing. If u had zero population growth then the cost of housing would be down at say No4. Main poverty problem solved.
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    That's quite sobering, and true. martin
    "If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room!"

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    Some time back I explained how if we had a 1-child per couple sort of rule then with eech passing generation a husband&wife might hav two houses (at age 25yr) when their granddads&mums died, then 4 houses (at age 50yr) when their mums&dads died.
    At age 25 the granddad&mum's houses might actually go to the mums&dads in the first instance but the couple would get the houses or the $$$$ in the end anyhow.

    We would be able to reverse so-called development, ie we would be bulldozing subdivizions to make way for native grassland and native forests and native swamps.
    Whats a good word that describes the opposit of development????? A green word. Nature-friendly. Future friendly. Must be a good word out there somewhere.

    Anyhow if mac were King there would be zero poverty.
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    Lemmeseenow. Lets look at Gilligan's Island.

    With a 2-kids per family policy we start off with say 8000 husbands&wifes eech with their own house (4000 houses)(ie 4000 mortgages).

    We return in two generations and we find............
    8000 greatgrannys with 4000 houses (zero mortgages, fully paydoff). And 8000 grannys with 4000 houses (half paydoff). And 8000 dads&mums with 4000 houses (fully mortgaged), and 8000 kids. Totals = 24000 bums and 12000 houses (half paydoff overall).

    A generation later the greatgrannys hav died and we hav a new crop of dads&mums etc etc. We hav 24000 bums and 12000 houses (3/4 paydoff overall).
    A generation later we hav 24000 bums and 12000 houses (4/4 paydoff overall).

    And after that no further mortgages are needed. Newlyweds will walk into their very own (but old) homes. Their only home costs will be maintenance and upgrading and rates and insurance.

    Poverty, what poverty, aint no poverty round here.
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    King mac takes the throne on Gilligan's Island and promptly brings in a one baby rule.
    A permit iz required before u hav a baby -- eech adult iz entitled to a half-baby (ie a couple would need to teamup to get one baby) -- anyone may buy or sell their half-baby (ie a single parent would buy a half-baby to get one-baby) -- a special permit iz required to allow a person or persons to hav more than one baby (ie a baby or half-babys bort from others).
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    Quote Originally Posted by cushioncrawler View Post
    I like RR but he and everyone else iz wrong about lotsa things.
    The main problem re poverty iz high unemployment.
    A minimum adult wage would help, but not az much az one might think.

    The No1 cost iz housing. If u had zero population growth then the cost of housing would be down at say No4. Main poverty problem solved.
    mac.
    WOW, lets just ignore the fact that the wealthy top is not only stealng from the rest, but poisoning the people, and the planet as well.


    Hey Mac, here's a clue, the number one cost for poor people is buying enough food to stay alive!


    Zero population growth might be possible, if er didn't have boadloads of religious fanatics out there trying to prevent people from using birth control, and exercising their right to safe, selective abortions, able to control their own bodies and economic decisions impacted by unwanted pregnancies.


    RR is right, not wrong, and history proves him correct, FYI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiabloViejo View Post
    The War on the Poor and Working Families


    Robert Reich connects the dots to show how a range of positions, on issues ranging from the minimum wage to unemployment insurance to food stamps, work together to keep poor and working families in desperate situations.

    http://youtu.be/Npj2U1PdIhI


    Remember folks, for the conservatives it's only class warfare when middle class and poor people fight back.
    I get so fed up with Repigs constantly yapping about "Entitlemennts" while ifnoring the FACT that we pay for these social insurances.

    The lies they tell are so obvious, it is impossible, for me at least, to respect anyone who votes for any of them.

    G.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gayle in MD View Post
    WOW, lets just ignore the fact that the wealthy top is not only stealng from the rest, but poisoning the people, and the planet as well.
    Hey Mac, here's a clue, the number one cost for poor people is buying enough food to stay alive!Zero population growth might be possible, if er didn't have boadloads of religious fanatics out there trying to prevent people from using birth control, and exercising their right to safe, selective abortions, able to control their own bodies and economic decisions impacted by unwanted pregnancies.RR is right, not wrong, and history proves him correct, FYI.
    Gayle, my wordage woz re poverty only (ignoring az u say the main global etc issues, ie the future).
    But I googled the living wage for a family with 2 kids in Texas and housing iz indeed No1 ($795), transport $764, food $713, medical $434, other $187 = $34716 needed per yr. For a single parent housing woz $795 and food $397.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cushioncrawler View Post
    Gayle, my wordage woz re poverty only (ignoring az u say the main global etc issues, ie the future).
    But I googled the living wage for a family with 2 kids in Texas and housing iz indeed No1 ($795), transport $764, food $713, medical $434, other $187 = $34716 needed per yr. For a single parent housing woz $795 and food $397.
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    People who are living in poverty are not making a living wage and Texas has more people living in poverty and without health insurance than most states.

    The actual living wage if Repiglicans hadn't blocked voting to increase it over these last two decades so that the wealthy corporate CEO PIGS could rack up subsidies, while they are making unprecedented profits, annd hiding their money off shore, while polluting our food, water, and air, making us sick, and literally killing us, should be up around twenty dollars an hour, FYI. That's just to barelyu keep up with Cost Of Living increases.

    It is absolutely ridiculous to suggest that housing is the number one cost, when there are so many homeless people across the country. Totally absurd! Do you think the poor, the sick, the elderly and the homeless, mostly RED STATES, with REPIGLICAN GOVERNORS AND LEGISLATURES, own homes? Homeless people ARE living in poverty. Food to feed themselves and their kids, is their number one cost and concern! Get Real!

    Additionally, the REPIGLICAN GOVERNORS OF THE RED STATES, lie and deceive with their statistics, so you can't trust their numbers about ANYTHING!

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