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    gravity waves and gravity speed.

    Nice article by guillen re gravity speed (ie aether waves, ie aether disturbance). Mainly Van Flandern's stuff.
    Aether disturbance travels at 20,000,000,000*c. Very interesting.
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    http://www.alfonsoleonguillen.net/velogravtom.html
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    Nice articles re speed of gravity turbulence (aktually aether turbulence or reverberation or disturbance or hammer) by Cahill kan be found in Progress Physics. Aether turbulence travels at about 500km/sec or c/600. Yet aether disturbance travels at 20,000,000,000*c. Amazing, shocking.
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    Gravity and inertia are forces acting on matter (atoms etc) due to a change in the speed of slippage throo the aether.

    AETHER. Ranzan says that aether iz being created and destroyed in varyus places in the universe, hencely aether iz allways accelerating or decelerating and never stationary and never mooving at a konstant speed and rarely in a straight line.
    http://www.cellularuniverse.org/index.htm

    GRAVITY. An accelerating aether rezults in a force akting on a body thusly producing acceleration.

    INERTIA. An accelerating body rezults in a force akting on the body thusly rezisting that acceleration.

    MASS. If a body kan experience gravity (& inertia) then the body (atoms etc) iz sayd to hav gravity-mass (& inertia-mass).

    SPINNING BODYS. It follows that aether tends to be pulled in at earth's equator due to earth's spin (ie centrifugal force), and hencely aether iz spat out at earth's poles (but this might be trumped by gravity). It inkreecs apparent-g at the equator, and reduces apparent-g at the poles.

    PUZZLED. Aktually I karnt understand why this inertial effekt iznt much much stronger, and why it iznt more dominant. Still thinking.
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    The speed of light iz c (throo the aether)(ie relative to the speed of the aether) in addition to the speed of the aether.

    If aether kurvs then light kurvs. Bent light aint due to bent time or bent space. Bent light aint due to gravitation.

    Ranzan says that aether iz destroyed inside matter, matter mostly sitting near the edges of our little dynamic steady state cosmic cell. This destruction causes aetheric tension near the center of our cell, where new aether sort of boils into existence. The universe haz an infinite number of such cells.
    http://www.cellularuniverse.org/index.htm
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    READ THIS CROCK OF KRAPP. mac.

    Astronomers have found the first direct evidence of cosmic inflation, the theorized dramatic expansion of the universe that put the "bang" in the Big Bang 13.8 billion years ago, new research suggests.

    If it holds up, the landmark discovery — which also confirms the existence of hypothesized ripples in space-time known as gravitational waves — would give researchers a much better understanding of the Big Bang and its immediate aftermath.

    "If it is confirmed, then it would be the most important discovery since the discovery, I think, that the expansion of the universe is accelerating,". Harvard astronomer Avi Loeb, who is not a member of the study team, told Space.com, comparing the finding to a 1998 observation that opened the window on mysterious dark energy and won three researchers the 2011 Nobel Prize in physics. [The Big Bang to Now in 10 Easy Steps]

    A team led by John Kovac, of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, is announcing the results today (March 17), unveiling two manuscripts that have not yet been submitted to peer-reviewed journals. Nature released a video describing the cosmic inflation discovery earlier today. Kovac's team will also discuss the results in a news conference today at 12 p.m. EDT (1600 GMT).

    To understand just what the detection of an inflation "smoking gun" would mean, a little background about the universe's first instants is in order.

    The universe grows up.
    The brief and astonishing inflationary epoch transformed the infant universe from mere quantum fluctuations into something of macroscopic size, adherents of the theory say.

    Beginning just 10 to the minus 35 seconds (roughly one trillionth of a trillionth of a trillionth of a second) after the universe's birth, the idea goes, space-time expanded incredibly rapidly, ballooning outward faster than the speed of light. (This did not violate Albert Einstein's theory of special relativity, which holds that nothing can move faster than light through space, since inflation was an expansion of space itself.)

    Basic inflation theory has been supported over the years by several different space missions that mapped out the cosmic microwave background (CMB), the ancient light that began saturating the universe about 380,000 years after the Big Bang. (Before this time, the universe was a sizzling fog of plasma and energy too hot for photons to travel freely.)

    While the CMB contains tiny temperature variations, it is, for the most part, strikingly uniform across the entire sky — a property that bolsters the inflation concept, researchers say.

    "Why the cosmic microwave background temperature is the same at different spots in the sky would be a mystery if it was not for inflation saying, well, our whole sky came from this tiny region," Chuck Bennett, principal investigator of NASA's Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe (WMAP) mission, told Space.com last year. "So the idea of inflation helps answer some of these mysteries, and it explains where these fluctuations came from.".

    But astronomers had never claimed to find a smoking gun for inflation — until now.

    Polarized light.
    The smoking gun is a type of polarization in the CMB known as "B-modes." The spectacular expansion of the universe during inflation produced gravitational waves, which, in turn, generated the B-modes, according to the theory.

    So multiple teams have been hunting for the B-modes; indeed, Bennett last year referred to their detection as "the current Holy Grail of the business." In the new study announced today, Kovac and his team report that they have spotted the characteristic swirls of B-mode polarization using the BICEP2 telescope in Antarctica. (BICEP is short for "Background Imaging of Cosmic Extragalactic Polarization.")

    The researchers made ultrasensitive maps of the CMB over about 2 percent of the sky, taking advantage of BICEP2's great observing site.

    "The South Pole is the closest you can get to space and still be on the ground," Kovac said in a statement. "It’s one of the driest and clearest locations on Earth, perfect for observing the faint microwaves from the Big Bang."

    Einstein predicted the existence of gravitational waves in 1916, as part of his theory of general relativity. The new find represents the first direct evidence of these primordial space-time ripples, researchers said.
    "This is probably a direct image of gravitational waves across the entire sky, showing us the early universe," Kovac told Space.com.Knowing how big the potential discovery is, Kovac and his colleagues pored over the BICEP2 dataset for several years to be sure the signal wasn't some kind of artifact generated by the telescope's instrumentation.

    "We're very confident that the signal that we're seeing is real, and it's on the sky," he said.

    Still, Kovac knows that a great deal of scientific scrutiny is sure to follow.

    "It's going to be controversial," he told Space.com. "We can expect that people will try to shoot at it from every direction, and we invite that — that's the scientific process, and it'll be fun and interesting."

    "I'm sure there will be lots of discussion about galactic foregrounds and whether they could possibly be fooling us, be totally different than we'd expected," Kovac added. "But our paper goes into some detail on using all the best available models for what galactic foregrounds ought to look like, and why what we see doesn't look like that."

    Loeb said he finds the team's data and arguments compelling. But wide acceptance of the find will likely only come if other instruments, such as the European Space Agency's Planck spacecraft, spot the signal in the CMB as well, he added. [Gallery: Planck Spacecraft Sees Big Bang Relics]

    "I think the most exciting thing to watch out for is in the next few months, to see what, for example, the Planck team will say about it," Loeb said. "It may take them time, because they're in the midst of analyzing their polarization data. But it would be very important for confirming or disputing this claim."
    In addition to providing strong support for inflation theory, the new BICEP2 observations reveal some details about the inflation process itself.

    For example, the strength of the B-mode signal suggests that inflation occurred at tremendous energy levels — levels so high that all of the major forces in the universe, except gravity, were unified at the time, Loeb said.

    Still, there is much more to learn about our universe's first few moments. For example, astronomers still have no idea what the substance that propelled inflation — dubbed the "inflaton" — actually is, Loeb said.
    B-Mode Pattern Observed with the BICEP2 Telescope
    Gravitational waves from inflation generate a faint but distinctive twisting pattern in the polarization of the cosmic microwave background, known as a "curl" or B-mode pattern. For the density fluctuations that generate most of the polarization of the CMB, this part of the primordial pattern is exactly zero. Shown here is the actual B-mode pattern observed with the BICEP2 telescope, which is consistent with the pattern predicted for primordial gravitational waves. The line segments show the polarization strength and orientation at different spots on the sky. The red and blue shading shows the degree of clockwise and anti-clockwise twisting of this B-mode pattern.
    Credit: BICEP2 Collaboration View full size image

    "It's not yet a victory of theoretical physics that we see evidence for a process that took place early on," he said. "We really need to understand what this substance — this inflaton — is. And until we do that, it's just like dark matter or dark energy — we give it a name, but we don't know what it is."

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    ........Astronomers have found the first direct evidence of cosmic inflation, the theorized dramatic expansion of the universe that put the "bang" in the Big Bang 13.8 billion years ago, new research suggests.

    Einstein predicted the existence of gravitational waves in 1916, as part of his theory of general relativity. The new find represents the first direct evidence of these primordial space-time ripples, researchers said. "This is probably a direct image of gravitational waves across the entire sky, showing us the early universe," Kovac told Space.com. Knowing how big the potential discovery is, Kovac and his colleagues pored over the BICEP2 dataset for several years to be sure the signal wasn't some kind of artifact generated by the telescope's instrumentation.

    "We're very confident that the signal that we're seeing is real, and it's on the sky," he said.

    "I'm sure there will be lots of discussion about galactic foregrounds and whether they could possibly be fooling us, be totally different than we'd expected," Kovac added. "But our paper goes into some detail on using all the best available models for what galactic foregrounds ought to look like, and why what we see doesn't look like that."

    "I think the most exciting thing to watch out for is in the next few months, to see what, for example, the Planck team will say about it," Loeb said. "It may take them time, because they're in the midst of analyzing their polarization data. But it would be very important for confirming or disputing this claim."

    Gravitational waves from inflation generate a faint but distinctive twisting pattern in the polarization of the cosmic microwave background, known as a "curl" or B-mode pattern. For the density fluctuations that generate most of the polarization of the CMB, this part of the primordial pattern is exactly zero. Shown here is the actual B-mode pattern observed with the BICEP2 telescope, which is consistent with the pattern predicted for primordial gravitational waves. The line segments show the polarization strength and orientation at different spots on the sky. The red and blue shading shows the degree of clockwise and anti-clockwise twisting of this B-mode pattern.............

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    THIS IZ ALL BULLSHIT.
    THEY SAY THEY HAVE FOUND THE FIRST DIREKT EVIDENCE OF COSMIC INFLATION.
    THEY SAY THEY HAVE FOUND THE FIRST DIREKT EVIDENCE OF PRIMORDAL SPACE-TIME RIPPLES.
    THEY SAY THIS IZ PROBABLY A DIREKT IMAGE OF GRAVITATIONAL WAVES ACROSS THE ENTIRE SKY.
    THEY SAY HERE IZ THE ACTUAL B-MODE PATTERN OBSERVED.

    THEY SAY THEY UZED MODELS AND YEARS WORTH OF ANALYSING TO GET THEMS DIAGRAMS. THIS MEANS THERE IZ ZERO DIREKT EVIDENCE??? LIKEWIZE FOR THE PLANCK TEAM, THEY TOO WILL FUDGE AND PUSH DATA FOR YEARS, TO GET THEIR DIREKT REZULTS.

    HOW DID YEARS OF PORING PROVE THAT IT WOZNT AN INSTRUMENT ARTIFAKT????
    WHY IZ HE CONFIDENT THAT THE SIGNAL IZ REAL????
    WHY IZ HE CONFIDENT THAT THE GALACTIC FOREGROUND IZNT FOOLING THEM????
    WHO PREDICTED THE PATTERNS, WHEN, WHERE?????
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    ......new research suggests........
    .....If it holds up..........
    .........."If it is confirmed................
    ......... that have not yet been submitted to peer-reviewed journals..........
    .............To understand just what the detection of an inflation "smoking gun" would mean........
    ....... adherents of the theory say............
    ............ the idea goes................
    ........... a property that bolsters the inflation concept...........
    ................ researchers say...................
    ............... "So the idea of inflation helps answer some of these mysteries...........
    ........... according to the theory..............
    .................. "This is probably a direct image of ......
    ........ "We're very confident ......
    ....... Still, Kovac knows that a great deal of scientific scrutiny is sure to follow....................
    .................. "It's going to be controversial,"..........
    ............. whether they could possibly be fooling us..............
    .................. all the best available models for what galactic foregrounds ought to look like...................
    .................... Loeb said he finds the team's data and arguments compelling.............
    ................ But wide acceptance of the find will likely only come if..............
    ................... "I think the most exciting thing to watch out for is in the next few months......................
    .................... it would be very important for confirming or disputing this claim."................
    ..................... In addition to providing strong support for inflation theory.................
    ....................... the strength of the B-mode signal suggests that............................
    ................ astronomers still have no idea what the substance that propelled inflation — dubbed the "inflaton" — actually is...........

    .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ...........................................
    LIKE I SAYD, ITS ALL BULLSHIT. The following shood be read uzing Stephen Hawking's computer voice..................

    The above wordage might be sincere humility in the face of the certainty of being beatified for sainthood (tautology alert) and being carryed shoulder-high around Nobel Hall by duzzens of apostles, surrounded by hundreds of disciples, all teary eyed, overwhelmed by the sheer purity and super-understatement of divine truths.

    Or it kood be caution in the knowledge that allmost all science iz sooner or later prooven wrong, and that it karnt hurt to hav some moral insurance when lieing on the Inquisitor General's rack, or when lieing at the Pearly Gates.
    mac.
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    Here are some candidates for Cosmic Background Microwave Radiation.
    1. A Big Bang..................... Our universe emerging from a point.
    2. A Small Bang................. Someone farted in the observatory.
    3. Lots of Medium Bangs..... Syria.

    Here are some candidates for Foreground Microwave Radiation.
    4. Oceanic Microwave Radiation.
    5. Galactic Microwave Radiation.

    And the winner iz -- OMR.
    mac.
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    Igor, i hav discovered that cosmic background microwave radiation sometimes haz a faint polarization.
    ..........Yes Dr Frankeinstein.
    I think i kan find a use for this polarization, to help standard cosmic theory, to link it to The Big Bang.
    ..........Yes Dr Frankeinstein.
    Normally a scientist would hypothesize, predict, devize, experiment, gather data, and proov or disproov.
    ..........Yes Dr Frankeinstein.
    But i allready hav the theory (The Big Bang) and the experiment (measuring polarization of the CMB).
    I will measure lots of data, then fudge & push & model & calibrate the data untill it shows something worthwhile (this will take years).
    ..........Yes Dr Frankeinstein.
    Then I will invent a model that predicts that something worthwhile, and pretend the model woz years old.
    ..........Yes Dr Frankeinstein.
    And mainstream science will hav another good news-bite, and more funding.
    ..........Yes Dr Frankeinstein.
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    I kood write pages re stupidity in the aforementioned news. But here iz just one little bit. Read this carefully.....

    ......."I'm sure there will be lots of discussion about galactic foregrounds and whether they could possibly be fooling us, be totally different than we'd expected," Kovac added. "But our paper goes into some detail on using all the best available models for what galactic foregrounds ought to look like, and why what we see doesn't look like that........"

    Notice he sayd models, koz it appears there were lots of best available models. This infers there were lots of not best available models. And it infers there were lots of non-available models. It adds up to lots and lots and lots of best and non-best and available and non-available models.

    Now, Igor, if just one model givs me some worthwhile rezults then I will be happy.
    ..........Yes Dr Frankeinstein.
    But if not then I will make one.
    ..........Yes Dr Frankeinstein.
    Anyhow, the model that givs the best worthwhile rezults will of course be the best available model.
    ..........Yes Dr Frankeinstein.
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