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    Why? How Republicans get Americans to vote against their own best interests

    Why? How Republicans get Americans to vote against their own best interests

    By Robert Sobel
    Examiner.com
    April 21, 2012
    http://www.examiner.com/article/how-...che=1344781054




    The general stigma and opinion of the majority of the American people is that the Republican party and their policies favor the wealthy. If so many people believe that a particular political party has only a small elite in their best interest, why do so many still continue to vote for them? A question needs to be asked, why do working class, low and middle income families, continue to support a party that gives little to no benefit to them?

    A New York Times/CBS News poll was released last October and showed that 70 percent of all Americans believed that the policies of congressional Republicans favored the rich. In addition to the backlash towards congressional Republicans, two-thirds of Americans actually disapprove of continuing tax cuts for corporations and millionaires. In 2012, President Obama spoke about the "Buffett Rule", which would place a minimum tax rate of 30 percent on millionaires, but ultimately failed in the Senate with a 51-49 vote. Only one Republican voted for the bill, falling nine votes short of the 60 vote super majority it needed to move to the House of Representatives.

    Though the "Buffett Rule" failed in the Senate, if a 60 percent threshold was needed among the American people, the bill would have passed with flying colors. According to a CNN poll, 72 percent of Americans favor the "Buffett Rule," blowing away the numbers shown in congress. These numbers show where the majority of Americans stand when it comes to economics, but it doesn't translate in the polls when it comes to election time. On most occasions, both the Republican party and the Democratic party each gain around 45 percent of the electorate, with the remaining 10 percent swinging in either direction depending on the mood of the country. While Democratic voters are mostly working class Americans who are more inclined to change and accepting others, Republican voters stick to their ideology and are much more resistant to change.

    It makes economic sense for the wealthiest Americans to vote for the Republican party because they want to protect their own private finances without giving others, including themselves, the chance for more upward mobility. What makes people scratch their head is the idea of a working class family, making $50,000 a year, voting for a party that continues to give tax breaks to the wealthy and paying for it by cutting the programs that benefit the lower and middle class income families. The Locust Fork News-Journal did a story about a retired Auburn History professor and author, Wayne Flynt, who has written about why Americans often do vote against their best interests in his book "Poor but Proud."

    “It’s partly because preachers tell them that the Democratic Party is a godless party...It’s party because the Democratic Party is made up of a large number of African-Americans, and working class whites just won’t vote that way.”

    Dr. Flynt points out that before the 1960s and 1970s, social issues such as abortion, gay rights and religion weren't talked about as much as they are today. As the years have gone on, social issues and their importance have mixed together with the economic issues of our time. In many southern states, Evangelical Christianity makes up the majority of the voters, most of them Republican. With the recent insurgence of the Tea Party movement into the national Republican party, religion and Christianity has made its way into the secular society of the United States. Today, more than ever before, religion has found its way out of the home and churches and into the public square, a place where religion was never intended to be when our founding fathers began to craft the United States constitution. Dr. Flynt makes a very important statement when it comes to Americans and their idea of the importance of their religion and its impact on society.

    “If you are a truck diver, a plumber, an electrician or a steel worker and you live in Alabama, you say, ‘Well, I think my religion is the way everybody ought to think,... but, let that same guy move to Salt Lake City, Utah (where the majority is Mormon) or New Jersey or Connecticut (where the majority is Catholic) or Dearborn, Michigan, (where the majority is Muslim), and he won’t think so highly of the idea that the majority of people ought to impose their religious values on the minority.”

    Even when conservatives leave the comfort of their conservative church, they quickly turn the TV to the right wing news station, Fox News, or set the radio dial to conservatives mouth pieces like Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck or Michael Savage. Fox News, owned by billionaire Rupert Murdoch, has been accused of multiple instances where they have taken a far right bias when reporting the news. The "journalists" on Fox News twist facts around to misinform their viewers and push them towards the Republican party. While conservatives hold Fox News close to their hearts, the rest of America can't take them seriously. With conservative talking heads like Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity blasting any political position that isn't far right conservatism, independent voters often see through the bias and turn the TV off.

    The Republican party and the pundits who support them, use an agenda of fear, channeling the ways of former Republican senator from Wisconsin, Joseph McCarthy. In the 1950s, McCarthy had accused hundreds of Democrats in the United States of being members of the communist party without having any proof of his claims. As the years went on, the American people took McCarthy and his fear agenda as a sad and pathetic joke. The current Republican party goes further than McCarthy did, using what conservatives hold close to them against them, their religion. Republicans push the fear of gays, Muslims, atheists and others who aren't evangelical Christians onto conservatives voters, using those fears to bypass many economic issues that could normally work against them.

    Whether it's religion, fear or simply a case of misinformation, conservative voters have been getting the wool pulled over their eyes for years and it's not only affecting them, but the entire country. The Democratic party is far from perfect, but more often than not, their policies represent the best interest of the majority of the American people. Until the media becomes accountable for the truth in their reporting and Americans start to think outside the box and accept that others might have some good ideas, the American people will have to continue to weather the storm of Republican destruction.
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    Excellent! Accurate! AND pathetic!

    The fascists have all been appointed to the Supreme Court by the Bush Family and the total FAKE, Reagan. who also removed the FCC guards against propaganda.


    If Jeb Bush wangles his way into the White House, and we don't get Democrats into full power, so that they can repeal Citizens United, the US and Democracy in America, will be nothing but a faded dream.

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    There are those who want to redistribute the property of others to benefit themselves and there are those who think that is stealing and intrinsically dishonest.
    Larry in VA...James Kopp, A real Hero and martyr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by llotter View Post
    There are those who want to redistribute the property of others to benefit themselves and there are those who think that is stealing and intrinsically dishonest.
    "The Biggest Redistribution Of Wealth From The Middle Class And Poor To The Rich Ever" Explained...

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-0...ever-explained




    BTW, isn't engaging in tax evasion illegal? And isn't it dishonest and a form of stealing from all of us who do pay our taxes?

    Secret Accounts Put Focus on US Offshore Tax Evasion

    http://www.voanews.com/content/secre...n/1874678.html

    But food stamps are the real problem right?!?!?




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    Quote Originally Posted by DiabloViejo View Post
    "The Biggest Redistribution Of Wealth From The Middle Class And Poor To The Rich Ever" Explained...

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-0...ever-explained




    BTW, isn't engaging in tax evasion illegal? And isn't it dishonest and a form of stealing from all of us who do pay our taxes?

    Secret Accounts Put Focus on US Offshore Tax Evasion

    http://www.voanews.com/content/secre...n/1874678.html

    But food stamps are the real problem right?!?!?




    Great post, as usual. Too bad Repiglicans have that automatic fact blocker of theirs, on, all the time.

    They are the personification of garbage in, garbage out.


    Repiglicans are killing all of us, while they're stealing from us, and killing the planet and everything that lives and grows upon it.

    Nothing will survive if we don't get rid of all of them!

    G.

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    No matter who the redistribution programs benefit, it is still wrong to steal and I will vote against stealing every time I get the chance.
    Larry in VA...James Kopp, A real Hero and martyr.

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    If I were King i wouldn't hav any taxes of any sort. Vote for mac.

    However i do realize that this sort of thing haz been dunn before, and it didn't go down very well with smugglers. Smugglers arranged a Tea Party to dump cheap low-tax tea that woz undermining their tea-smuggling racket. Kings karnt pleez everyone all the time.
    macRex.

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    It is not the government that is doing the stealing and neither is it taxes themselves. It is those that are on the receiving end of redistribution, which now totals $2.5T/year and 80 million checks/mo. Taking from some to the benefit of others, even though a bureaucrat with a policeman at his side acting as the middleman, is no different than a criminal stealing from others directly. It is sad that so many have come to accept this as not only legal but a good thing.
    Larry in VA...James Kopp, A real Hero and martyr.

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