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    Idiotic GOP State Senator Defends Fracking: The “Indians” Loved “the Burning Waters”

    Bob Cesca
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    August 13, 2014
    http://thedailybanter.com/2014/08/id...-senator-says/



    When President Obama told The New York Times over the weekend that too many Republicans deny science, implying that they reject reason and fact-based policies, who knew he’d be vindicated so quickly?

    There are more than a few seemingly acceptable ways to defend fracking. Nearly all of these defenses are nearsighted, and some are wrong, but they’re not necessarily insane. However, if your goal is to defend the controversial process of harvesting natural gas using “hydraulic fracturing” or “fracking,” it’s probably a smart idea to avoid defending flammable tap water, a terrible yet iconic consequence of the process.

    During the Western Conservative Summit in Denver this week, State Sen. Randy Baumgardner, a Colorado Republican, was asked about fracking by a right-wing activist named Gordon “Dr. Chaps” Klingenschmitt. His response?

    "I’ve been to a lot of the fracking seminars, and if people, they’ve never been and they really don’t understand it. Most of these seminars are free they can go to — they can learn about fracking. They can learn that the myth of, you know what, nine or 11 thousand feet, that fluid is gonna come back to the surface. And since 19 — the 1940s when they first started fracking, there’s never been one recorded incident. They talk about methane in the water and this, that, and the other, but if you go back in history and look at how the Indians traveled, they traveled to the burning waters. And that was methane in the waters and that was for warmth in the wintertime. So a lot of people, if they just trace back the history, they’ll know how a lot of this is propaganda."

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    What a colossal bucket of horses*#t. And what he said was pretty stupid, too. (I’m here all week, folks.)

    There’s no historical record showing that North American tribes relied upon methane-polluted water for warmth in the wintertime, especially “burning water” created as the result of an industrial activity. No evidence whatsoever. But it’s always entertaining to hear morons tell the rest of us that we’re the ones who are ignorant of history when it’s absolutely and obviously the other way around. And insofar as there are mentions of “burning water” in Native American history, it’s almost certainly one of any number of other things:

    1) “Fire-Water” — Also known as booze.

    2) Hot springs — Baumgardner represents a town called Hot Sulpher Springs, CO. I certainly hope those springs, if they still exist, are just the result of geothermal activity and not methane pollution.

    3) Lava flows — Similar to hot springs, lava from volcanic eruptions would also provide warmth (though dangerously so) and appear in liquid form.
    Conversely, where does the now infamous flammable tap water come from? Fracking, almost exclusively so. By way of a refresher, here’s that eye-opening scene from the documentary Gasland: http://youtu.be/4ApZkNsXfJE

    A recent study by Duke University and reported via The Economist, showed that indeed methane-polluted well-water is commensurate with the hydraulic fracturing process.

    Dr. Jackson studied water samples from 141 private drinking-water wells in an area home to 5,000 or so drilling sites sitting atop the Marcellus shale, a gas-rich geological formation stretching from northeastern Pennsylvania to southeastern New York. He found that four out of five wells contained methane. In some homes within 1km (0.6 miles) from the nearest drill site the gas had a chemical signature suggesting that it originated from the Marcellus, rather than being the product of biological processes closer to the surface.

    Concentrations of the gas in such homes were also six times higher than for those farther away. Levels of ethane and propane, other ingredients of natural gas, were higher, too. All were well above the levels the Department of Interior considers safe.

    The study also confirmed that none of the drilling sites were observed to be in violation of regulations. So the methane in the wells arrived there due to what’s considered to be a safe process. Clearly it’s not.

    Ultimately, though, it’s shills like Baumgardner and the ill-conceived “all of the above” energy policy that’s slowing what ought to be a space-race caliber pursuit to discover cheap, renewable and clean-burning forms of energy.

    The Indians? Jesus, what a buffoon.






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    Republicans are the dumbest people on the earth! The worst trait they have, is thinking they are fooling everybody! LOL, that is also the proof of their insanity! We can all see it right here every day of the week! LOL.

    There has never been a shortage of stupid Republicans around, that's for sure!

    But, we stand on the crux of the change, as they are going to get burried by their crazy nutjob, Teabagging idiots, very soon!
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    It has been proven in court that the burning water in documentary GASLAND was a fraud. What other idiotic stuff do you folks obediently believe?

    http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/08/ga...nd%26fr%3Dipad

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiabloViejo View Post
    You do realize your cartoon is another lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir Ulyanov View Post
    You do realize your cartoon is another lie.
    First off, it's not a cartoon, it's a photographic meme. Learn the proper use of the english language.

    Lies? LOL! Does your google not work? Or are you brain damaged from drinking all the toxic right wing tea?

    Everyday you are exposing yourself more and more as a lying right wing nut job imbecile and a buffoon.

    I feel sorry for you. Your nads have shriveled away to nothing, and you have absolutely no courage. Hell, you are not even man enough to drop the fake Russian act, man up, and admit that you're a fake. But that's the way that cockroaches and other vermin like you live; as soon as the light comes on, you scurry way to slink in the shadows.

    Here, have fun reading and tell me again that it's a lie!

    http://www.thenation.com/blog/178534...ar-his-mansion

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickunga...d-and-he-sues/

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...cking/5726603/

    http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...91181466603804

    http://thinkprogress.org/climate/201...ests-fracking/

    http://science-beta.slashdot.org/sto...is-texas-ranch

    https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...top%20Fracking
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiabloViejo View Post
    First off, it's not a cartoon, it's a photographic meme. Learn the proper use of the english language.

    Lies? LOL! Does your google not work? Or are you brain damaged from drinking all the toxic right wing tea?

    Everyday you are exposing yourself more and more as a lying right wing nut job imbecile and a buffoon.

    I feel sorry for you. Your nads have shriveled away to nothing, and you have absolutely no courage. Hell, you are not even man enough to drop the fake Russian act, man up, and admit that you're a fake. But that's the way that cockroaches and other vermin like you live; as soon as the light comes on, you scurry way to slink in the shadows.

    Here, have fun reading and tell me again that it's a lie!

    http://www.thenation.com/blog/178534...ar-his-mansion

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickunga...d-and-he-sues/

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...cking/5726603/

    http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...91181466603804

    http://thinkprogress.org/climate/201...ests-fracking/

    http://science-beta.slashdot.org/sto...is-texas-ranch

    https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...top%20Fracking
    It is a shame you cannot read. None of these stories support the lie your cartoons tell you to believe. As the soviets said, you are a useful tool.

    Your first link says

    Last night on MSNBC, Nation Editor-at-Large Chris Hayes profiled ExxonMobil CEO Rex Tillerson, a vocal proponent of hydraulic fracking, who is suing to prevent the construction of a water tower near his eighty-three-acre, $5 million horse ranch in Bartonville, Texas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir Ulyanov View Post
    It is a shame you cannot read. None of these stories support the lie your cartoons tell you to believe. As the soviets said, you are a useful tool.

    Your first link says
    No it's a shame that YOU can't read.

    Having said that, I trust that anyone who actually reads the reporting on the links provided, can draw their own conclusion without your help, or mine.

    BTW, I almost forgot, anyway here you go... http://youtu.be/vlDpDr2gQYI
    Last edited by DiabloViejo; 08-17-2014 at 05:42 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiabloViejo View Post
    No it's a shame that YOU can't read.

    Having said that, I trust that anyone who actually reads the reporting on the links provided, can draw their own conclusion without your help, or mine.

    BTW, I almost forgot, anyway here you go... http://youtu.be/vlDpDr2gQYI
    There is much help available for those with learning disability such as yourself. Your argument is foolish. Someone doesn't want a water tower nearby is like saying that someone who doesn't want a 100 foot tall McDonalds sign next door is against eating. You are simply repeating the hate that your Stalinist masters tell you to do without the slightest comprehension of what any of it means. That your Stalinist agitprop playmates would agree only shows that the brainwashing is pervasive.

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