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    Ten Ball Challenge- the players

    All the big hitters are here. Looks like you have the Fillipino mafia (Efren, Busta, L Andam, W Kiamco, R Gallego,Jose P, Ronnie A, etc), you have your Young Guns- Ginky, C Deuel, E Stalev, A Pagulayan, Big Guns-Earl, Ralf, Varner, Jim Rempe...as well as a ton of other Champions- Larry Nevel, Jarrod Clowery, Teddy Garrahan, Pete Fusco, Dee Adkins, Danny Hewitt, so on, so forth. This is shaping up to be a serious field. I havn't seen the full list of players but my guess, it's gonna look like a list of "Champions R Us".

    Eric >will be at The Marina

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    I'm so jealous I'm not there, Eric. Is it a nice setup?

    Is there a lot of in-casino promotion? Posters and such? Seating for how many?

    I must admit I'm not crazy about these rules. The push is OK, but to have to make a shot after one is a little bit bizarre. Does anyone know whose idea this was?

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    Re: Ten Ball Challenge- the players

    What's going on Steve?

    I'm getting my info second hand, my buddy is there, now.
    I'll have to give you the updates tonight when I go.

    As far as the weird push rule-I spoke to Gerry Butler and he said that he wants more offense. He came up with the rule as a hybrid old rollout 9 ball-new 7 ball push rule to cut down on the amount of the safeties. I'm curious what will be said about it at the players meeting today.

    Eric >hope to run into ya

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    Hi Eric. I'm praying this rule change doesn't get adopted at more tournaments. Here's a layout where I see it as a real problem:

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    Let's say you leave your opponent this, and he pushes to A. Think about the psychological aspects involved here. You can't go for this bank shot, because you are in a position of "control". To lose it by going for this low-percentage shot would weigh heavily on your mind as you take your practice strokes. (The same applies if he pushes to B and tempts you with the thin cut.)

    But if you give the push back, your opponent has a free shot at winning a game he had no chance in before the push. Psychologically, there is no pressure on him. And great players, when there is no pressure, make shots they would never dream of taking in other situations.

    I see a ton of games being won in previously-unwinnable situations, and I don't look at that as a good thing.

    Anyone?

    - Steve

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    Re: Ten Ball Challenge- the players

    Actually Steve, if I'm reading your post right, you missed part of the rule(sorry if I'm wrong [img]/ccboard/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] ) With the No miss Pushout, you can only rollout if you have no fouls. Also, the person rolling out, if given the shot back, HAS to make a ball(other than the Qball [img]/ccboard/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] ) or give BIH to the opponent. In your example, I'm giving the shot back to you. If you make the bank/cut, you run out. If you miss the bank, I get BIH -even I can get out from there!

    Eric

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    Hey Eric, I understand the no-miss rule. I was saying that, yes, I'd give the shot back too - but the player now shooting (my opponent) has a free chance to make a great shot. If he misses, so what? He was going to lose from that position anyway. Your opponent has gone from having about a 5% chance to win the game, to about a 40-50% chance - and there's not a thing you can do about it.

    Eric, I also just PM'd you.

    - Steve

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    Re: Ten Ball Challenge- the players

    This is the first I've heard of this format. Probably a better solution would be just to use Grady's rules which seem to make a lot more sense!

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    Re: Ten Ball Challenge- the players

    I've never heard of 10 ball. Is it 9 ball with 10 balls or what?

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    Yes, the balls still pocketed in rotation with one extra ball the ten! That one extra balll however adds a new dynamic to the game though.

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    Is it racked like a small triangle?

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