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#290100 - 11/12/09 02:17 AM Re: The mental game [Re: wolfdancer]
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and now I remember that I was incorrect...the correct trigger is to touch the thumb and middle finger together
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#290102 - 11/12/09 02:58 AM Re: The mental game [Re: wolfdancer]
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Touching the thumb and middle finger is a technique that is often used by hypnotherapists to trigger a hypnotic state. I suspect that it was learned from a hypnotist and it would work as a trigger for playing pool as well.

Hypnosis is nothing more than a word we use for an altered state of consciousness. In that sense The triggers I sugested are quite similar. Turning control over to the subconscious (rather than the unconscious)is a very mild form of hypnotic induction with out all the usual words.

It has been noted by several others that everything one can do with hypnosis can be done usng other techniques. Stepping into a shot to trigger the subconscious is a simple way to quiet the internal verbal dialog without getting too esoteric about what is going on.
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#290153 - 11/12/09 12:16 PM Re: The mental game [Re: JoeW]
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I believe I have read something re: "the quiet mind" ..technique? for either pool, or golf and I did have an old Golf book about playing in the zone...but wasn't that taken with it's author.
Googling "playing in the zone" brings up lots of interesting links.
I remember years back ,,,the old "Inner Game of Tennis" (later on Golf....) used the simple mind quieting trick of saying to yourself
"back" as the ball approached, and "hit" as you made your forward swing.

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#290159 - 11/12/09 01:27 PM Re: The mental game [Re: wolfdancer]
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Funny, but I once had a good friend that was agoraphibic and about the only thing that calmed him during an episode was to rub his fingers together of rub his hands on his pants, "grounding" him in a way.
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#290160 - 11/12/09 01:36 PM Re: The mental game [Re: Deeman3]
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true story..... I once knew someone who was so agoraphobic that he received and lived on, some disability income from Ca. State. The only times that he was able to leave the house, was to cash his check, or to play league pool.
I am now developing agoraphobia myself....as in the classical
Greek meaning...."fear of the marketplace" another down day for my
"so you want to be a millionaire" er, portfolio.

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#290868 - 11/20/09 09:14 PM Re: The mental game [Re: JoeW]
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I am enjoying the dictionary, thanks Joe. Very interesting, many of these I havent heard. But, I think the 7 and out definition needs clarification. It looks like just a regular 7 ball spot. Where I come from, if you get the 7 and out its really a 2 ball spot(7 and 8).

I also think the called 5 should be more clearly defined as being a win if you make the called 5 ball shot.

Lastly,I see the wild balls as counting as a win on the break. Not arguing, but I have never seen that before. Any spot ball that drops on the break gets spotted.

PS- Wtf is rolling the pineapple? rolling da cheese or rolling da money ball? Probably just me, but I still dont get that one.


 Originally Posted By: JoeW
I just published an article about the mental game. It includes a discussion of concentration, subconscious control and a little about the unconscious. It is too long to publish here so here is a link.

Learning Mental Control

In conjuction with members of AZB we have written An American Pool Player's Dictionary that has a about 200 terms for those who might be interested. It is located at the URL shown below.

Pool Player's Dictionary

As always comments are appreciated.


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#290869 - 11/20/09 09:45 PM Re: The mental game [Re: Bambu]
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The definitions came from guys from all over the country Tried for consensus by publishing several times and asking for corrections. This is about the fifth revision.

The pinapple etc is rolling (shooting at) the money ball. I will check for clairification on the other terms.

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#290872 - 11/20/09 11:08 PM Re: The mental game [Re: JoeW]
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Ah, that makes sense now. Thanks Joe.
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#290874 - 11/21/09 12:35 AM Re: The mental game [Re: JoeW]
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Everyone visualizes and uses their imagination when playing pool. Those who don't think so, simply have not recognized what they are doing.

 Originally Posted By: JoeW
However, many others do not think that visualization is something of use.
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#290875 - 11/21/09 12:45 AM Re: The mental game [Re: Bambu]
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These are names for the game winning ball. In 9ball, this would be the 9ball, the ball of most value because it wins the game. These items are of value, just like the game winning ball. For example, if you were a mouse, cheese would be valuable. The money ball also refers to the game winning ball, a ball that wins the game and whatever money that's associated with winning that game. Same goes for pineapple, or any other name of something of value.

 Originally Posted By: Bambu
PS- Wtf is rolling the pineapple? rolling da cheese or rolling da money ball? Probably just me, but I still dont get that one.
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